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Subject: Princeton Bubble


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M3
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Date Posted: 06:59:27 12/15/17 Fri

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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CU_88
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Date Posted: 07:29:31 12/15/17 Fri

Which are the Ivy schools that do not have a bubble?
Is it Yale/Cornell/Dartmouth/Brown? I knw that Columbia, Penn and Harvard have bubbles.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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bowwowwow
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Date Posted: 07:59:59 12/15/17 Fri

The 2017 Ivy League Sole Champions deserve a practice bubble too !!!!

Come on Yale, get with the program.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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CU_88
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Date Posted: 08:27:47 12/15/17 Fri

But now that Yale has beaten Harvard twice and won the Ivy league without a bubble, one can argue that Yale does not need it to win in football. I am not suprised that Cornell/Brown does not have a bubble as I suspect it is beyond their budget.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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Football Fanstic
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Date Posted: 22:46:49 12/15/17 Fri

Agreed.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 08:31:17 12/15/17 Fri

Looks well designed for that space.

I wonder if demand for use will exceed availability, lots of teams would want it.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 12:01:07 12/15/17 Fri

Princeton bubble is standard technology but custom designed and installed to use essentially every inch of the stadium floor. Also subdivideable, as it is most of the time. You can get a lot for $3.5mm, hardly chump change, if you have some purchasing leverage. Doesn’t hurt if you can dig up an anonymous donation that size, either.

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[> Subject: Yale Practice Bubble


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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 09:08:07 12/15/17 Fri

Yale needs this too. The original plan was to install Field Turf at the Bowl and put and bubble there. However, that has been delayed by ridiculous concerns about unproven claims that Field Turf causes cancer. So instead of practicing on Field Turf in warmth under the bubble Yale athletes practice on Field Turf in the cold, as Clint Frank Field and all their other athletic fields are already Field Turf. It makes no sense.

If Yale won't/can't install Field Turf at the Bowl then they should at least go to plan B and place the Practice Bubble over Clint Frank Field.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:47:08 12/15/17 Fri

The anecdotal evidence connecting FieldTurf to cancer is not insubstantial. Again, it's anecdotal at this time, but it's thought-provoking and worth further inquiry.

The larger question is that, many Yale athletes are playing and/or practicing on FieldTurf already, so what is the incremental harm of putting a bubble on top of a field which is FieldTurf already?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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Football Fanatic
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Date Posted: 23:10:02 12/20/17 Wed

Are you telling me pto teams would sacrifice their entire team assets if they thought their practice facilities were unsafe and they could get sued as a result? Cmon man. Every Ivy school should have a nice indoor practice facility.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 09:53:52 12/21/17 Thu

So your opinion is that, because a lot of people do something, therefore it must be safe?

Even though because FieldTurf is a relatively new product, with a total history of less than two decades, and its long-term effects have not been studied rigorously?

Even though there is substantial anecdotal evidence that athletes who spend a lot of time on FieldTurf have incurred a higher than normal rate of cancer, with an especially notable number cases of soccer goalies and other positions who dive into the turf?

Have you ever played on FieldTurf? Every time you come up from the ground when you're covered in sweat, you're covered in tiny pellets of crushed used tires. How many pellets of crushed used rubber pellets have you spit out of your mouth, like soccer goalies do every single practice?

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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Football Fanatic
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Date Posted: 12:12:03 12/21/17 Thu

I was replying to your post at 9:53 on 12/21.

We can play the follow the leader game forever. Why have a weight room like Duke, Northwestern , or even Miami Ohio (all private schools that pride themselves on academics) just because they have one for player development or to help with recruiting? Same goes for the locker room and the proverbial “players lounge.” That logic extends to the indoor practice facility as well.

Why shouldn’t we have those same advantages? Those things do matter. You can choose to believe that or not.

Maybe an answer to this quandary is to have all Ivy sports have the universities contribute the same $ amount per athelete to the programs, regardless of sport (each school decides their own $ amount). Each sport gets their own revenue and charged for their own expenses. Any remaining monies needed have to be raised entirely by private donation or fundraising? Everything else: coaches bonuses, equipment and training facilities, revenue, travel, concessions, parking,
advertising, tv contracts, everything. If you want a new facility, raise the money or keep what you have. I’d feel bad for the sports other than football, basketball and perhaps hockey that would not survive in terms of recruiting or facility maintenance, but that way, the successful and most popular programs (attenence based) could hire (reward) who they want and build what is needed to maximize student athlete potential....that is, if their alumni and other supporters are in agreement. Like a sports bond referendum. It’s an alternative solution. Open to hearing other ideas.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: As Mike James Would Say, "It's Your Fault"


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 13:04:41 12/21/17 Thu

Why are you arguing with me? I agree with you. I'm in favor of the practice bubble over the Yale Bowl.

I've agreed with you throughout this entire thread. I've been explicitly clear that I agree with you in two different posts in this thread.

Please don't tell me that you graduated from Yale.

I'm going to give you my best Mike James imitation: "If you can't read well, it's not my fault."

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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Football Fanatic
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Date Posted: 10:56:25 12/21/17 Thu

Yes, I have played on field turf, in high school and college. Doing just fine thank you.for asking.

Yale also plays on artificial turf everyday on their practice field. Maybe the people at Yale know something about covering turf that the vast majority of all D1 schools (including some Ivies ) don’t. Maybe it’s only in The New Haven climate that its turf is not a viable option?.. and that’s the reason why the team travels off site to practice indoors when the weather is bad?

If we don’t like fileld turf, put something else in. I am not a follower of the crowd. My point was that some teams who’s very livelihood is dependent on their player’s health practice indoors.

Maybe Yale should just forfeit their away games to teams that play on turf as it’s unsafe for our players, but not theirs....and if you think playing on that piece of art Bowl field is safer, you are sadly mistaken...

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:22:14 12/21/17 Thu

How carefully did you read my original post? I merely said that the safety of FieldTurf is an open question worthy of medical research.

I further said that, given that the practice fields are already FieldTurf, there was no further incremental danger from switching the Bowl to FieldTurf and putting a practice bubble over it.

My post made it clear to everybody but apparently you that I am in favor of a bubble over the Bowl turf. As others have said, the current Bowl field is a very slow surface akin to running on a beach, not to mention an embarrassment aesthetically. A good high school program would be ashamed to play on a field like that.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Yale Practice Bubble


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bowwowwow
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Date Posted: 10:36:59 12/16/17 Sat

Practice bubble !!! Dilly Dilly !!!

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[> Subject: Dartmouth proposal for indoor facility


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 16:30:43 12/15/17 Fri

was shot down by the town even though it met zoning requirements. It is being appealed in NH courts I believe. It would have been stand along indoor field turf somewhere in 75 yd range to be used by all sports. Homeowners across street complaining total nimby situation. Hanover is becoming more like the Peoples Republic of Ithaca every day

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[> [> Subject: Re: Dartmouth proposal for indoor facility


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Football Fanatic
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Date Posted: 23:29:57 12/15/17 Fri

I totally agree. They could also situate the football weight room by the field house.

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[> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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Old Eli
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Date Posted: 18:28:29 12/15/17 Fri

I am not a huge fan of the bubbles, I would rather Yale put up a field house which could serve as a year round facility for all outdoor sports, including practice in season when there is inclement weather. Will probably never happen.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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bowwowwow
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Date Posted: 10:42:25 12/16/17 Sat

If 2 new state of the art student dorms can be built on campus at 500 million, then a 3 million dollar bubble shouldn't be too hard to imagine in the near future. Hopefully the new AD will make this happen.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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Bill
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Date Posted: 14:09:06 12/16/17 Sat

We need Turf!!!! Embarrassing. I’m telling you from experience it’s like running on a beach.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Princeton Bubble


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TigerTown
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Date Posted: 23:15:06 12/18/17 Mon

We preferred field house also but had to be in the University long-range plan and obtain additional real estate. The cost was prohibitive and would have been another 10+ years and $25m. Bubble over existing infrastructure worked!

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