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Subject: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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Football dad
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Date Posted: 12:54:55 12/18/17 Mon

Having a hard time with idea of encouraging my son to look into school I played at. Not closely involved with program but seems like there are issues. Anyone dealt with this? Just feels like I’d be a real traitor if he applies to 3 or 4 other ivies and doesn’t bother with the one his dad played at.

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[> Subject: take the safe road


Author:
holtsledge
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Date Posted: 13:31:14 12/18/17 Mon

and tell him to go to Dartmouth

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[> [> Subject: Re: take the safe road


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 13:40:25 12/18/17 Mon

But if dad played there...

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[> [> [> Subject: If I had to guess...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:43:30 12/18/17 Mon


I'd say that he played for Brown or Cornell.

Those are the two programs generating smoke in terms of "issues" these days.

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[> Subject: If there are real issues at program


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:40:43 12/18/17 Mon


Then chances are decent that new coaches will be there by the time your son enrolls.

I know that it's a leap of faith, but if you enjoyed your days at your alma mater that should govern your recommendations. If your son says "I get it Dad, but I want to do my own thing," then that's his decision.

My two cents...

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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GreenIvy
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Date Posted: 13:53:04 12/18/17 Mon

Having played in college and having my son play at a different school, your allegiance will change as soon as your son enrolls. Important thing is where he wants to go, because he's the one putting in the hours and strapping his chinstrap on. Pick a school that he'd be happy even if he wasn't playing football.
Plus, he doesn't want to play for Brown or Cornell.

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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bowwowwow
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Date Posted: 14:22:27 12/18/17 Mon

Try to help him create as many options as possible then let him pick his own path.

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 15:10:14 12/18/17 Mon

I agree that you need to keep your options open to as many of the Ivies as practical since every one of the Ivies provides outstanding experiences inside and outside the classroom.

You also must keep in mind that all Ivy programs need to show serious interest in far more players than they give final offers. This is because they do not know which of the potential recruits will elect to commit to another school and which of the recruits will not make it past the rigorous Ivy admissions. Thus, it is a moving target for all coaches so they have to show interest in a much larger pool of players to make sure they have ample backup players to fill out their class. Unless you are one of the top recruits, you do not always know if you are a potential backup recruit until you get an official offer. Every year, you hear stories of athletes who generated interest from a variety of schools only to have many of these interested schools drop out as the majority of their class begins to fill up.

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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Pete
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Date Posted: 16:03:26 12/18/17 Mon

It never hurts looking into all the options! My son was recruited heavily and his final choice really came down to a single question. If you blew out your knee on the first day of practice would you still want to go to school here?

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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Counsellor
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Date Posted: 19:02:50 12/18/17 Mon

Brown is your best bet.....new vitality with new OC and QB coaches in the offing....will be very comfortable .....new facilities....have him speak with the current players.....no issues that would impact him...recognize the ulterior motives underlying the bad-mouthing on this forum....better to avoid the baloney here and let the kid visit for a weekend and allow him to make his own decision...but intervene if he leans to Dartmouth...that arctic-like climate from October to May should be a non-starter plus the travel issues in even getting there

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[> [> Subject: You're right Counsellor


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 10:12:30 12/19/17 Tue

the weather in Providence is so much better then that in Hanover nice cold fog laden rime blowing off the bay as opposed to beautiful winter wonderland up north

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 20:30:18 12/18/17 Mon

Have him apply to Cornell as we need a "winning season"! Plus if he's any good he'll probably start where at Yale or Harvard he'll most likely be picking splinters out of his rear end.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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jerrylh
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Date Posted: 11:34:23 12/19/17 Tue

In the end, if he opts for an Ivy school, whichever one it is will provide him with a great education, great classmates and an outstanding life experience. He should go where he feel most comfortable.

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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Football dad
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Date Posted: 15:38:39 12/19/17 Tue

Thanks for all the replies. Great reminder for me that it will be his course to set. He will have access to all the information good and bad, so I’ll let him figure it out.

Sorry for being undercover, but I don’t want to be perceived as “piling on” when a program is going through tough times.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 15:44:49 12/19/17 Tue

We spend years and all of our time and emotional energy trying to guide and point our children in the right direction. It's not easy to suddenly turn off that switch, but it's the natural course of life and, indeed, of good parenting.

Of course that does not stop my mother from asking in almost every telephone conversation with her whether I'm eating well and going to the gym.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:56:21 12/19/17 Tue


Would be curious to know of your response when she asked how things were going the week you banged those six women...

:)

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 10:12:00 12/22/17 Fri

This may not be surprising, but my mother was highly disapproving of my lifestyle as a bachelor. Therefore, despite the fact that I am very close to her, I had to adopt a policy of putting her on a strict need-to-know basis as far as dating information was concerned.

Although she has generally liked the women I've brought home and said kind things about them. She once told a friend about first meeting her favorite girlfriend of mine, "When I walked in the door and saw her sitting at my kitchen table, I couldn't believe a woman that beautiful was in my house." Mom's a very charming lady.

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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ivyjoe
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Date Posted: 17:20:46 12/19/17 Tue

Take your son to Dartmouth. If he doesn't like the environment and love the students there, then he has to be in a city (where he will probably spend the rest of his life Think about his future mentor; non better than Buddy Teevens, who received the attention of Art Rooney's son Dan, or Bob Kraft's grand son Harry, or Don Shula's son, David and grandson Dan. They all went through the motion and sent their sons to best place to mature for the future world. Of course a guarnated job with Goldman Sachs doesn't hurt.

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[> [> Subject: Great post, but...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 17:59:27 12/19/17 Tue


Kraft actually transferred to Colby.

Otherwise--RIGHT ON!!

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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ivyjoe
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Date Posted: 18:25:48 12/19/17 Tue

So the best QB for stats in MA history (Everret HS) transferred to Tufts from Dartmouth, hoping to start for some team. His father, a legend who coached him in HS, had to have some influence for him to be mentored by Buddy Teevens. Just thinking out loud.

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[> Subject: Re: Conflicted Ivy football dad


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 09:47:57 12/20/17 Wed

While Jonathan DiBiaso was not able to get much playing time as a quarterback at Tufts, he has been able to pursue his dream path to follow in the footsteps of his father. He now is a teacher at Everett High and an assistant football coach at Catholic Memorial. He also has been a NFL intern the past two summers with the Tampa Bay Bucs.

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[> [> Subject: Great to hear!


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:49:28 12/20/17 Wed


Dartmouth has lost a couple of QBs to transfers. None made an impact on the field.

But good to hear that DiBiaso is making an impact off the field.

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