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Subject: Joseph Schumpeter Loves the Spread Offense, Misses Good Old Days of Yale-Princeton Domination

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Date Posted: 18:36:46 12/29/17 Fri
In reply to: Calvin 's message, "Actually the NFL uses it too" on 11:55:07 12/29/17 Fri

I think that the battle between football offenses and defenses represents a pretty efficient market. New ideas of value spread rapidly, as do the best countermeasures which arise to combat the most effective of the new ideas.

Ideas and philosophies which get overtaken by more durable approaches get consigned to the waste basket of history, just as in most efficient markets. Creative destruction, right?

I have no idea if Joseph Schumpeter was a football fan, but he was around during the turn of the twentieth century, at the height of the Yale-Princeton duopoly at the top of American football.

The spread offense is popular because it works. It's more popular today than it has been in the past because the rules of the game have evolved to limit the holding call on offensive linemen, making it easier to pass than in decades past. Furthermore, defensive backs have been limited in their ability to play bump-and-run, a staple of an earlier generation of good defense.

As a result, pass receivers have an easier job and offenses have an easier time getting them the ball. Now that passing is easier and more efficient, offensive coordinators figured out that getting more potential receivers downfield and "spread" out put maximum strain on the defense. This approach was simply taking advantage of the increased effectiveness of the passing game.

Rules change and offenses adapt to those changes. Ergo, an efficient market.

I have no doubt that the smarter and better head coaches regularly ask their defensive coordinators, "What do you most hate defending against?" Right now, the most common answer they hear is no huddle, uptempo spread offenses. That's why head coaches have that bias on the offensive side of the ball. It works.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Joseph Schumpeter Loves the Spread Offense, Misses Good Old Days of Yale-Princeton Domination

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Date Posted: 19:02:08 12/29/17 Fri

I don't mean to denigrate, but this whole topic is silly. Coaches are in business to win, not please fans and they will play any system they think helps them win. As you say, offenses evolve, even if fans don't, although a return to P-Y duopoly would be fun for some of us.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: It helps coaches win because the rules dictate as much

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Date Posted: 21:24:34 12/29/17 Fri

It works because the rule changes were enacted specifically to make it work.

In the six years prior to the 1978 NFL rule changes (primary of which were allowing OL to extend arms when pass-blocking, and no contact allowed with receivers after five yards), rushing accounted for 46% of offensive yards gained. The most-recent six years, that number has averaged 30%.

The '78 rule changes were just the beginning; nowadays, defending a competent passing game is ultimately a losing proposition.

The league (and by extension, its farm system the NCAA) wants highlight-reel material for the short attention span fanbase. An endless procession of 5-yard running plays doesn't cut it. Throw-throw-throw and length of the field scoring drives that take as little time off the clock as a typical basketball possession is what the powers that be want -- and have.

PS - touch my lawn, and I'm calling the cops.

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Date Posted: 16:54:19 12/30/17 Sat

voy vey....I like a good passing game, but I also enjoy watching the running game too. Watching nearly every team during this bowl season operating basically the same spread offense with nothing but five and ten yard passes gets boring. Twenty years ago college teams were running the shot gun, but they were also running the I-formation, empty backfields, triple option, wish bone, pro-set split backs, lots of fun stuff. Every college team today runs the same damn offense over and over again. That's OK I am turning off the college games and looking forward to the NFL tomorrow, as those contests are a lot more fun to watch.

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Date Posted: 11:00:50 12/31/17 Sun

Maybe they need to outlaw the spread offense like they did to the flying wedge in the good old days.

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Date Posted: 11:03:22 12/31/17 Sun

Washington Post tells old fogies like Sprint to get over it.


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Date Posted: 16:50:27 12/31/17 Sun

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