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Subject: The Ivy certianly will


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 10:58:38 01/17/18 Wed
In reply to: Diogenes 's message, "Perhaps not such a good point?" on 10:42:17 01/17/18 Wed


I will be utterly flabbergasted if another Ivy or Patriot school accepts this fellow.

I doubt that Dartmouth will do the Joe Yukica thing and file a lawsuit to force an unwanted marriage. But that doesn't mean that the ED process is meaningless either.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: If Dartmouth can't, or will not, enforce the contract, why is anyone else required to honor it?


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Diogenes (Go Green)
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Date Posted: 11:52:09 01/17/18 Wed

The gracious thing would be for Dartmouth to wish the young man well and "release" him from any obligations--even if those "obligations" are unenforceable or nonexistent. Some classy conduct seems in order.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Benefit of the bargain


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:22:22 01/17/18 Wed


Dartmouth has a regular decision process. If the kid isn't 100% committed to going to Hanover upon acceptance, he can apply regular decision like everyone else.

ED increases your chances of admission. But... you have to go there.

As for your question- the short answer is that if (say) Brown or Penn don't honor Dartmouth's ED policies, then why should Dartmouth honor Brown's or Penn's? Then the ED process would then become indistinguishable from ordinary EA or regular decision process. Who wants that?

I'm sure this kid will be fine. But my gut is that this kid ends up at a school that doesn't have a high overlap of applicants from Dartmouth. I doubt that (say) the University of Maryland will worry about pissing Dartmouth off by accepting the guy.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: If Dartmouth can't, or will not, enforce the contract, why is anyone else required to honor it?


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 12:28:14 01/17/18 Wed

I have always been under the impression that ivy schools have always "taken their medicine quietly" in such cases rather than try to enforce the "rules" in such cases. This impression has been anecdotally supported. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=701468

And seriously, what ivy school would ever seek to enforce such a commitment - meaning legal action? This is a lawyer's concept of how to proceed - meaning totally unrealistic.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: As the thread you posted indicated


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:36:10 01/17/18 Wed


There are other ways schools can effectively enforce their ED policies short of litigation.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: As the thread I posted indicated


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Calvin
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Date Posted: 13:05:15 01/17/18 Wed

"When we were applying for my daughter, I was concerned we would be accepted ED but without getting enough financial aid. I mentioned my concern and they told me that they would release us from the contract in a case like that. Most colleges probably wouldn't press too hard if you don't want to go,..."

"For the record, in 1990, I declined an early decision offer and was sent a sternly worded letter. That was it."

"My grandson applied to both an early decision and an early action school. I think they both knew he was doing that."

"Where I work, we don't force compliance at all. There are always a handful of individuals who don't enroll after an early decision, we account for that in our enrollment planning. We never want one individual student that badly, whatever, who cares."

Unknown how many of these were ivy schools....

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Calvin, thanks for that thread and that link to an interesting message board


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 13:23:16 01/17/18 Wed


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