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Subject: Re: Delaware as Role Model


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IvySportsJunkie
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Date Posted: 13:16:53 01/17/18 Wed
In reply to: An Observer 's message, "Delaware as Role Model" on 11:48:33 01/17/18 Wed

The vast majority of us recognize that it is impractical to try to duplicate how Stanford, Northwestern and Duke have been relatively successful competing in the Pac 12, Big Ten, and ACC. There is almost no support for trying to consistently compete at the Power 5 conference level.

That said, these three schools do provide useful insights into how they are able to recruit student athletes who can compete at the Ivy League academic level. There is ample room for the Ivies to recruit student athletes who meet our restrictive academic standards and can compete at the mid-major D1 sports level.

While Delaware may be a decent model for how to build a FCS football program, it does not have to compete at the same level academically. Delaware has a relatively easy admissions rate at 65% with an average GPA of 3.7 and average 600 SAT score. It is safe to assume that the average Delaware student athlete does not come close to meeting our AI standards.

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Date Posted: 13:52:25 01/17/18 Wed

Neither does the average football or basketball player at Northwestern, Duke or Stanford. That’s the whole point.

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:42:58 01/25/18 Thu

Joisey aptly summarizes the major logical flaw in the previous post by IvySportsJunkie.

Nobody disagrees that Stanford, Northwestern and Duke are great universities. (This is especially true of Stanford, which has already eclipsed most Ivies and is on its way to eclipsing all of us. Personally, I think Duke is overrated as a college and a university, but that's another post for another day.)

The point is that all three of Stanford, Northwestern and Duke run high major football and basketball programs with athletes who are not nearly the equal of Ivy athletes, Ivy undergraduates at large or even their own undergraduates at large.

Duke just recruited the top three basketball players in the class of 2018 nationwide, an incredible haul that makes Michigan's Fab Five class look like underachievers. At what point during the recruiting process do you think Coach Krzyzewski worried about checking the students' grades and SAT scores?

There is a gap in the academic qualifications on Ivy campuses between athletes and non-athletes. There is a chasm between those respective qualifications at Stanford, Northwestern and Duke.

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