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Subject: Re: IVY FOOTBALL


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jerrylh
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Date Posted: 05:54:14 01/25/18 Thu
In reply to: Walt Yale Blue 's message, "IVY FOOTBALL" on 02:15:54 01/24/18 Wed

If Princeton actually gives athletic scholarships, then why isn't their football team head and shoulders better any other Ivy team (unless you are saying that Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth and Penn are also giving athletic scholarships). You should also remember than Cornell did quite nicely against Princeton this year.

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Author:
M3
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Date Posted: 06:50:50 01/25/18 Thu

From WSJ article on Brevin White 4*

"In either sport, what has historically made attracting top-notch players to these schools difficult isn’t just the inferior facilities or lack of nationally televised games. Unlike almost every other Division I program, the Ivies do not offer athletic scholarships.

Instead, Ivy League schools only offer need-based financial aid to students. And they have stepped up those programs in recent years. For example, students in Princeton’s class of 2020 with family incomes up to $140,000 typically pay no tuition, according to the university. This applies to all students, not just athletes."

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[> [> [> Subject: Don't bother...


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 07:21:12 01/25/18 Thu


This point has been explained to Sprint dozens of times. He just doesn't get it.

Then again, it took him about five years to understand that the Ivy football teams just can't "drop to Division III" without taking the rest of the athletic department with them. (For those not familiar with NCAA rules, please google "Dayton Rule"). He hasn't make that complaint in a while, so perhaps he understands it now.

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Author:
Calvin
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Date Posted: 08:11:12 01/25/18 Thu

Sprint can't name a rule that prohibits giving a scholarship to any student whose family income is less than a certain amount.

He has always been a big advocate for reducing the financial burden of attending an ivy, such as by attending a community college the first couple of years, so it's odd he would oppose schools providing a scholarship to any student who is also an athlete.

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[> [> [> Subject: Better endowment returns would help expanding the scholarship base


Author:
remember it well
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Date Posted: 11:09:47 01/25/18 Thu

Seems the Ivys just can't accept the notion that indexing is the better alternative to the use of "highly touted" investment managers. Not to pick on the woeful returns of Harvard's endowment but these two articles are certainly disconcerting.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/harvard-endowment-chief-pushed-for-steeper-devaluation-of-assets-1513252800?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=20

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-endowments-rose-12-2-in-fiscal-2017-reversing-decline-1516856461

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