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Subject: Louis Vecchio


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AsiaSunset
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Date Posted: 11:59:58 02/07/18 Wed

Will not be a 5th year player at Penn and will graduate and use his remaining year of eligibility as a grad student at Vandy next year

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[> Subject: Re: Louis Vecchio


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Ivy Patriot
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Date Posted: 12:13:11 02/07/18 Wed

Hurts Penn, but a smart move by Vecchio. Earn an Ivy League degree, get a scholarship for grad work at a good school, and play in the SEC. What's not to like? With Columbia grad Cameron Nizialek punting in the national championship game a light might have gone on for potential fifth-year seniors. Sounds as if at least a couple of others are considering the same scenario.

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[> [> Subject: Not a thing... unless you're a Penn fan


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:23:58 02/07/18 Wed


I, for one, would have loved to have taken a fifth year of Dartmouth football.

Thus far, it looks like most Dartmouth guys (at least the football guys) have shared my sentiments. We've definitely had players who could have played at a higher level for their fifth year. Hopefully the trend continues, and the other teams' studs go to FBS to begin their grad careers.

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[> Subject: Re: Louis Vecchio


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CU_88
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Date Posted: 15:26:18 02/07/18 Wed

Unless you are injured you cannot get a 5th year in this league. That is why some of the seniors are going that option. Landon Baty is taking his 5th year at Columbia because he was injured one of the years.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Louis Vecchio


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GreenIvy
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Date Posted: 15:39:57 02/07/18 Wed

I understand the Ivy doesn't allow redshirting, unless being injured. But it also doesn't allow anyone playing if they graduate early. So basically they would rather have someone skip a semester to come back for the 5th year, than have someone accelerate their education and play a 4th as a grad student?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Louis Vecchio


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 16:09:34 02/07/18 Wed

Your understanding is incorrect. An injury has not been required for every 5th year that has been granted, at least if you go back some 15 plus years, and perhaps more recently.

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[> [> [> Subject: redshirt or 5th year


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GreenIvy
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Date Posted: 11:19:51 02/08/18 Thu

If what you say is correct, then how and when is a 5th year allowed?
I've always believed that a 5th year is allowed only if an Ivy player was injured within the first x amount of games. In Vecchio's case, his soph year he only played 2 games. However, for those many freshmen that never get any playing time with the varsity, those same players are not allowed to play a 5th year because that would be considered redshirting.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: redshirt or 5th year


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AsiaSunset
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Date Posted: 11:56:35 02/08/18 Thu

The rule actually applied to injuries or other unusual extenuating circumstances. In all cases submission of the facts must be submitted and approved by the League Office to get that 5th year.

In the early 2000's, Penn QB Mike Mitchell was granted a 5th year that was not injury related. I believe this has not occurred very often. Whether the rule has been subsequently amended or eliminated I wouldn't know.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: redshirt or 5th year


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GreenIvy
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Date Posted: 12:17:37 02/08/18 Thu

Thanks, and I guess the Ivy could make exceptions. Just like FBS schools sometimes grant players a 6th year, exceptions are granted.
But I never heard of players simply picking up an extra year simply because they didn't play one season.
My hope would be that the Ivy would allow players to graduate early and continue playing as graduate students while earning credit towards their Masters.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Ususally happens...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:21:47 02/08/18 Thu


It ususally happens when players take off a year for a Mormon Mission.

I'm not recalling any other context...

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[> Subject: Re: Louis Vecchio


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Ivy Patriot
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Date Posted: 20:04:50 02/10/18 Sat

I seem to recall a basketball player from a difficult family situation some years back who ran into severe academic difficulties that ended up costing him the chance to play one season. The coaches felt he was a good, hard-working,kid who would have been OK if not for the problems at home. They petitioned the Ivy League and he was granted another year. At least that's the way I remember it.

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