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Subject: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
ungvar
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Date Posted: 15:54:27 06/03/18 Sun

Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysnX1enMagM

Catch the LW final at 24:10 into the race.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
foehi
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Date Posted: 19:58:02 06/03/18 Sun

WOW.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
cadyellow
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Date Posted: 12:14:25 06/04/18 Mon

Gutsy finish for Columbia. Princeton was coming on very strong till the finish line, but Lions were able to hold them off and maintain the thin lead to end up the champion.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
SpuytenDuyvil76 (Dominant)
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Date Posted: 12:30:41 06/04/18 Mon

Lions led wire to wire, understroking Princeton, rowing outside their puddles-getting good run out of the boat, and when Princeton took it up even higher, matched them in the stroke rating and put them away.
Outstanding!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 13:46:50 06/04/18 Mon

English, please.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
SpuytenDuyvil76 (English, please)
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Date Posted: 07:12:28 06/05/18 Tue

An oar is a lever. The business end of the oar, the blade, enters and exits the water as the rower pries the boat ahead. When the oar blade exits the water it leaves behind a swirling mass of water, called a "puddle". The "stroke" rower is setting the pace for the boat and sits just ahead of the cox, who steers and game manages via loudspeaker in the boat. When the stroke oar is entering the water just past the puddle left by the rower at the bow or front end of the boat on his side, the boat is getting more efficient momentum for each stroke than a boat whose stroke oar is entering the water in the midst of the puddle left behind. You can see the difference clearly from the drone shots of CU and PU. Also, CU did carry a higher rating into the 1st 500 meters to establish a 3/4 length advantage on PU, but then settled to a lower rating as PU pushed their rating higher to claw back position v CU. When the boats are entering the final 500 meters, the camera shows a side view and the PU crew oars are working faster than CU. The announcer then says CU is making a push, you see the oars of the two boats start to sync up as CU matches PU's rating and CU pulls ahead. Princeton did make a terrific charge at the end, but it was too little, too late. BTW, because of the weight restriction on the athletes, which means size of athletes much more comparable than sometime in heavyweights, Lightweight races are often very close. That was some outstanding racing by those crews, and congratulations to all of them.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 08:35:12 06/09/18 Sat

Thank you very much for the thorough explanation.

When announcers say that a certain team is rowing at 36 or 37, I presume that it is strokes per minute. How do the announcers know this rate so precisely and immediately? Is somebody clocking the rowers with a stopwatch or is the announcer eyeballing it and giving unwarranted precision in his or her pronouncements?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


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sparman
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Date Posted: 21:21:03 06/04/18 Mon

Good job Columbia, strong race. Deserving win.

However, the audio said that PU was under-stroking Columbia early (36 to 37) and the final margin of victory (0.8 second) was closer than any other race. Not my definition of dominant.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


Author:
joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 22:21:54 06/04/18 Mon

Columbia did beat Princeton three times this year, the Tigers only losses. The total margin in the three was 4.7 seconds.

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[> Subject: Re: Columbia LW rowers - National Champions!!


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Boston Lion
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Date Posted: 13:19:26 06/04/18 Mon

Hearty congratulations to Columbia's Lightweight Crew on winning another national championship! Very well done!!

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[> Subject: you have no idea


Author:
holtsledge
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Date Posted: 13:29:05 06/04/18 Mon

how hard that is. I rowed for two years, you spend hundreds of hours training for single digit races. At the end you feel like your heart is going to explode. That was a great race congrats to my adopted second alma mater

impressive and gotta love the drone footage

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[> Subject: On to the Henley Royal Regatta


Author:
ungvar
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Date Posted: 17:45:25 06/07/18 Thu

From the Spectator:
The Lions will send two boats — a coxed four and a development four with no coxswain — to compete for the Prince Albert Challenge Cup and the Visitors Cup, respectively.

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[> [> Subject: Re: On to the Henley Royal Regatta


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sparman
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Date Posted: 20:18:41 06/07/18 Thu

Why would you not send the champion boat?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: On to the Henley Royal Regatta


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cadyellow
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Date Posted: 00:35:21 06/08/18 Fri

I would ditto the same question...

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: On to the Henley Royal Regatta


Author:
Percy Houghton (Columbia LW at Henley)
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Date Posted: 12:08:20 06/08/18 Fri

From LW Coach Parker (and disseminated with his permission):

As the team has improved, so has our recruiting. The freshmen stroke seat of the varsity eight competed in 2016 at the Last Chance Regatta in an attempt to qualify for the Olympics. Although he didn’t qualify, his participation places him in a category of athletes that are ineligible to race in the Temple Challenge Cup.

We applied for a waiver for him, however, it was not approved. We decided then that we would break up the crew into two fours so that everyone could race. It was not an easy decision, but one that was made with the foremost thought of making sure our championship athletes who had earned the privilege to represent Columbia at Henley would have the opportunity.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: On to the Henley Royal Regatta


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Boston Lion
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Date Posted: 13:19:15 06/08/18 Fri

Thanks, Percy H, for sharing the explanation. I was wondering about the same question as the previous posters.

Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, a tryout for an Olympic team would see to me to be a "benign" exercise and not cause for knocking out an Amercan college athlete. I don't know what the Temple Cup eligibility criteria are. Am I missing a material dimension of this kind of proceeding?

Also, anyone know who adjudicates the waiver requests, what past waiver norms look like, and whether there's any home cooking behind the waiver denial to keep non-U.K. competitors down?

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[> [> Subject: Re: On to the Henley Royal Regatta


Author:
Louise
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Date Posted: 20:21:02 06/08/18 Fri

from the AD: The 2018 IRA National Champion Columbia lightweight team is slated to compete at the Henley Royal Regatta from July 4-8.

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