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Subject: Week 3 Football Games


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Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 18:24:50 09/26/18 Wed

Princeton crushes Columbia 48 to 17
URI over Harvard 28 to 24
D’mouth over Penn 31 to 21
Maine over Yale 28 to 27
Brown gets offensive against G’town 38 to 14
Cornell over SHU 34 to 28

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


Author:
Wondering Aloud
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Date Posted: 19:20:01 09/26/18 Wed

Winners:
Columbia (Al surprises everyone)
Harvard (H has tradition)
Yale (They better beat Maine in New haven. If not....)
Dartmouth (Home court advantage)
GTown (Brown is down....)
Cornell (The Big Red on an upswing)

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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Right to Bear Arms
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Date Posted: 19:33:43 09/26/18 Wed

Is URI supposed to be that much better than last year? I remember the Bears won the Governors Cup a season ago and URI was not good.

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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Yale OL
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Date Posted: 20:55:52 09/26/18 Wed

I have watched two URI games this season. QB and WR's look real legit. They have some tough guys on D who play with a real chip on the shoulder. I am not sure if Harvard can hang with these guys this season.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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Right to Bear Arms
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Date Posted: 21:18:30 09/26/18 Wed

I bet Harvard wins by 14.

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 19:59:21 09/27/18 Thu

Princeton gets by Columbia - expect a tight game
Harvard over URI - First big test for the Crimson.
Yale upends Maine - on strong running game
Penn upsets Dartmouth - This game could go either way.
Brown crushes Georgetown - Bears are better than last year.
Sacred Heart vs. Cornell - Who the heck knows??? SH is currently 3-0 and we are 0-2.

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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old blue
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Date Posted: 00:15:48 09/28/18 Fri

gentlemen; the tom-toms project victories this weekend for our blue, ben franklin's, bruins, cantabs, cornelians and last but not least the best team in the ancient eight so far old nassau.

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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M3
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Date Posted: 06:49:00 09/28/18 Fri

Harvard
Dartmouth
Yale
Brown
Princeton
Cornell

all win

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[> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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Unknown
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Date Posted: 18:32:58 09/28/18 Fri

Halfway into the first quarter of Princeton-Columbia, I'm making a bold prediction: Princeton goes 10-0 and no team comes within 14 points of them

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[> [> [> Subject: I can just hear...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 18:59:38 09/28/18 Fri


The sound of chops being licked in Hanover.

:)

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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sparman
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Date Posted: 19:01:02 09/28/18 Fri

They can score but they need defense to keep up.

Really nice setting for a game tonight.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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jerrylh
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Date Posted: 19:47:09 09/28/18 Fri

Princeton up over Columbia 30-10 at the half.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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jerrylh
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Date Posted: 20:13:24 09/28/18 Fri

Princeton scores on first two possessions of the second half and it is now 45-10. No first downs for Columbia in the second half so far.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: How bout that Sucky URI team


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 20:36:15 09/28/18 Fri

URI 16 to 3 ovah Havahd

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


Author:
remember it well
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Date Posted: 20:44:23 09/28/18 Fri

This is the year the Tigers might have a better football team
than Rutgers.

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[> [> Subject: I think so


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 20:57:42 09/28/18 Fri

the Tigers are definitely roaring tonight

"Gotta" Lovett is a man among boys 174 on the ground he is approaching last yrs Gerbino numbers plus he has thrown for 2 scores

he at this point is a runaway fav for Off POY no one even in the same universe

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[> [> [> Subject: Armored Cavalry Regiment v. Light Infantry


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 21:05:31 09/28/18 Fri


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[> [> Subject: conditioning/depth


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 21:58:39 09/28/18 Fri

Princeton has given up zero (0) second-half points this year.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: conditioning/depth


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Tiger81
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Date Posted: 05:56:56 09/29/18 Sat

Similar to the Monmouth game, it felt like it was going to be a close contest going into the 2Q. Columbia had scored on a sustained drive to make it 13-10 and Princeton seemed to be having trouble stopping their offense. But the Tiger D then tightened up and for the remainder of the game both lines got the best of Columbia. As Joisey points out, conditioning and depth (and John Lovett of course) must have played a big role in turning the tide, particularly after several Lion defenders went down with injuries.

It was really encouraging to see another big win by Princeton against a solid team in their house with the starters off the field by the 4Q for the third straight game. Only two more away games are left, unfortunately they are against the Crimson and Eli’s, which I still cannot get my head around after many decades of HYP homecoming games.

My only concern about this team is the sustainability of running Lovett so much. RPOs were used much more sparingly the first two games but Lovett and Princeton’s OC’s eyes must have gotten big when they saw that Columbia was stacking the box and going with man coverage. It is a very hard attack to defend because they have so many weapons and a seasoned QB who goes for the jugular. I just hope he can avoid injuries because without him Princeton will have a good-but-not-great offense IMHO.

Based on the first three games Princeton merits Jake’s #1 power ranking. However, after last season’s 5-1 start devolved into an injury-riddled 5-5 season I don’t think many Tiger fans are assuming anything at this point; there are many dangerous teams in the Ivies this year and we will learn a lot today about the pecking order when Dartmouth and Penn face off. This is a fun team to watch and I’m happy for Coach Surace that the team is playing up to their potential so far.

Go Tigers!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: conditioning/depth


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jerrylh
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Date Posted: 06:49:21 09/29/18 Sat

Just a brief addendum.
With all of the injuries last year, we were able to develop many younger players. This has resulted in depth along both lines that allows the tigers to wear down the opponents in the second half. And this is without Holuba. Hopefully he can return this year.
Lovett is causing all sorts of problems for defenses. He is hard to blitz because he sees the field so well that he will take off. He is not quite as accurate as Kanoff (who is?), but accurate enough.
As you correctly point out, it is still early in the season.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: And maybe size


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sparman
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Date Posted: 07:40:04 09/29/18 Sat

Perhaps this is simply echoing comments from the TV announcers, which may not be accurate, but it seemed kike Tigers are a bit bigger and/or faster overall (or were, last night) than their opponents at the skill positions.

Lovett is a remarkable player and fun to watch but I too would like to see someone else share the load a bit more, especially in games that are not so close.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And maybe size


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 09:39:33 09/29/18 Sat

I share your sentiments, but over the last two years we’ve seen many looks and patterns that have been completely missing in the first three games, I suspect because (as the announcers also noted) nobody has stopped the simpler stuff. The gorgeous reverse to Eaddy last night is an obvious example. Bang, TD. They certainly have every motivation to do the same next week against Lehigh and save the truly nasty stuff for the big Ivies later. And then there’s Brown 10/13....

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[> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


Author:
Wondering Aloud
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Date Posted: 23:31:13 09/28/18 Fri

Princeton runs the table this year

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[> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games


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Unknown
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Date Posted: 00:01:08 09/29/18 Sat

Yes, I see the power rankings as:

Princeton
Dartmouth
Yale
Penn
Harvard
Columbia
Cornell
Brown

Although if Penn dismantles Dartmouth they could be the second best team this season.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Week 3 Football Games/ESPN minus


Author:
M3
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Date Posted: 07:40:51 09/29/18 Sat

I will echo last weeks post concerning ESPN plus

I guess it is national exposure but I think the ratio of plays to commercials is about 3:1

Painfully slow.

Upside Ford is a good announcer and classy guy.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Before we hand the Trophy to any team


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 10:33:56 09/29/18 Sat

Let’s play some more games first. Maybe some better competition. ?
Princeton is a fun team to watch. Would have loved to see them play Rutgers..!! But you have to believe in you’re team to do that.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Before we hand the Trophy to any team


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 10:45:46 09/29/18 Sat

You also need to believe Rutgers isn’t Penn State, which admittedly isn’t hard at the moment.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Its A BIG TEN TEAM..! It doesn’t matter


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 10:50:42 09/29/18 Sat

It would have been GREAT EXPOSURE For the IVY LEAGUE. Is that to hard to comprehend.?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Before we hand the Trophy to any team


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 11:43:21 09/29/18 Sat

You obviously haven’t watched Rutgers much. I would be circumspect regarding the “We are a Big Ten School” T-shirts.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: joiseyfan, you don’t get it


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 15:32:16 09/29/18 Sat

That’s ok, if Princeton head it would’ve been a tremendous feat for the Ivy League.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Before we hand the Trophy to any team


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 16:37:56 09/29/18 Sat

IWB --

FWIW, I wanted the game very badly, and think the NCAA would have been brilliant to move heaven and earth to make it happen, which of course they didn't.

But at the same time I have to respect the argument that getting your team beaten up for a symbolic occasion very early in the season, which was apparently the only option available, is a dicey proposition. Especially when your Ivy competition is risking absolutely nothing. And of course I'm not sure anyone really expected the recollapse of Rutgers to the degree it's happened -- again.

I'm with you in spirit.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Princeton would have kicked they’re assessed out of the place


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 18:01:54 09/29/18 Sat


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[> [> Subject: Lovett's Arm, Tigers Running the Table?


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 10:57:16 09/29/18 Sat

If somebody just cut and spliced tape of Lovett throwing downfield last night, I would have said confidently, "This quarterback isn't accurate enough to lead his team to a championship." Other than that opening touchdown pass to #84, Lovett's arm was erratic, at times very much so.

But of course, Princeton might not need him to be much more accurate. The other way to view the situation is, on an afternoon when he is accurate (which I presume he was earlier this season), the Tigers will be scary.

But talk of running the table is premature. Just to make the math easy, let's assume that Princeton is a 90% favorite to win each of the six remaining games besides Dartmouth. Under this scenario, the Tigers would only be a 53% probability to be 9-0 ex-Dartmouth. And Princeton is no 90% favorite to beat Dartmouth.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Lovett's Arm, Tigers Running the Table?


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 11:56:58 09/29/18 Sat

Before the end of the season (I would have said “certainly”, but they’ve had no need to date) you will see one of the three gunners at QB with Lovett in the slot along with Eaddy or Volker and the two horses at WR. Recall Lovett had 26 receptions two years ago with a TD. Hard to imagine how to cover that mid to deep downfield. That being said, Lovett may indeed well be the fourth most accurate pure passer they have.

The other thing I would note is that Lions could have been called four or five times for pass interference last night, and there were zero. It affected the timing of a couple plays.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lovett's Arm, Tigers Running the Table? Pass Interference


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 12:28:12 09/29/18 Sat

I can't wait to see Lovett used in this fashion. If you've got talented passers who can also either run or catch, putting two of them on the field at once puts tremendous strain on a defense. I think you'll see this more often. Imagine Alabama lining up with Tua and Jalen on the field at once.

I agree about all those potential pass interference penalties. The refs seemed to think that, as long as the cornerback was not still staring at the wide receiver, anything goes. Several times Lovett underthrew an open receiver, who slowed down and had the corner run into him. But presumably because the corner was not looking at the receiver, no penalty was called.

I'm not sure that I agree with that interpretation of the rule. Generally, the covering corners were not in the process of trying to catch the ball, they were still running down the field and ran directly (without looking) into the receiver. I think that's pass interference.

I was under the impression the cornerback only gets a free pass if he's tracking the ball with his eyes or attempting to catch it.

In other words, if you're attempting to catch the ball, you're in a "jump ball" situation and anything goes. But if you're running stride for stride with the receiver, he stops and you run into him (whether looking at him or not), that's pass interference.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Lovett's Arm, Tigers Running the Table?


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M3
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Date Posted: 12:29:25 09/29/18 Sat

If anyone teams starting QB gets hurt then there is big trouble.

Gerbino is like Lovett in that the play a Tim Tebow type game and are at higher risk for injury than your usual hand off or drop back QB.

So what to do?

You roll the dice and hope for the best.

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