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Subject: Re: Penn Gets #9


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Asiasunset
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Date Posted: 11:22:45 08/22/21 Sun
In reply to: Asiasunset 's message, "Penn Gets #4" on 17:37:08 07/14/21 Wed

Saw that Penn just got a commitment from Patrick Hawkins, a 6’5 230 lb TE from Foothill School in Santa Ana CA

Saw offers from Yale, Columbia, Cornell, Bucknell and the University of San Diego on his Twitter feed.

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Penn Nation
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Date Posted: 07:39:00 08/23/21 Mon

I like what we are getting so far.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #10


Author:
Asiasunset
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Date Posted: 07:45:18 08/23/21 Mon

Max Freeman West Forsyth GA 6-4 275 OL

Offers: Charleston Southern, Furman, Davidson

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #10


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Penn Nation
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Date Posted: 11:47:33 08/23/21 Mon

I can't believe we have 10 already.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #10


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Asiasunset
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Date Posted: 08:17:24 08/24/21 Tue

You made an interesting point. I quickly checked and last year we got the 10th commitment on 9/6. Is there a trend this year? Hard to tell because some Ivies seem to have more than 10 by now and others less.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I think its a trend


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:23:07 08/24/21 Tue


Best my recollection, Dartmouth's current six commitments is far and away the most commitments we've had prior to the beginning of the high school senior season.

But as our esteemed colleague astutely noted this summer, having early commitments from the lightest recruited guys probably is not a good thing. (Not saying that's the case for Penn, as their early recruits look fine).

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Tiger81
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Date Posted: 08:35:11 08/24/21 Tue

I’d have to go back and check but I believe Princeton’s 2022 commit list is up to 15-16 and for 2021 they only had a total of 20 or so which means they are recruiting faster than last year’s pace. But they need to be ahead of the game in order to offset last year’s small class.

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Warrior II
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Date Posted: 08:41:23 08/24/21 Tue

But there are often kids who are committed but have chosen to delay their announcements so the number you see is probably less than the actual

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Hard to see the logic of that....


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:19:10 08/24/21 Tue


If a kid has committed, what's the rationale for keeping it a secret?

If he's hoping that the offers keep on coming, then that's not much of a commitment...

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hard to see the logic of that....


Author:
Warrior II
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Date Posted: 10:34:37 08/24/21 Tue

Some kids just don’t like to talk about themselves

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:09:22 08/24/21 Tue

Well, they are not talking about themselves per se, they are disclosing that they have been humbled and blessed.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Commitments


Author:
ivy guy
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Date Posted: 11:29:14 08/24/21 Tue

We all know some commitments are like high school weddings.
Seems like a good idea at the time, but rarely lasting.

The ivy track record for commitments is pretty good. Much better that the P5 where everyday players announce they are re-opening recruiting ... after being committed for months or a year. De-committers seem to like the attention, and free trips to big games (and ongoing efforts from coaches to "flip" them).

I tend to look posting of an ivy university provided commitment graphic, as an imprimatur of mutual understanding.

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:34:13 08/24/21 Tue

Not just high school weddings. Ivy League weddings as well.

In a survey of my class, 9.5% of respondents who had been divorced agreed with the statement, "On my wedding day, I thought this might not be a good idea."

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Calvin
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Date Posted: 12:59:35 08/24/21 Tue

The worth of the idea in that circumstance is somewhat proportional to the depth of the father's Second Amendment proclivities.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Commitments


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 14:09:38 08/24/21 Tue

After one Fourth of July weekend, I asked my boss at the time what he had done over the weekend. He looked down and responded sheepishly, "Oh, man. I had a crazy weekend. I flew to Paris and married [his girlfriend]."

Seven months later, she delivered a baby boy.

There's just something slightly jarring about highly educated middle-aged professionals who fall into this circumstance. He had degrees from Harvard, Wharton and Notre Dame.

His wife was absolutely gorgeous and a really nice woman so it all worked out. They're still married 25 years later.

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Author:
ivy guy
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Date Posted: 15:16:54 08/24/21 Tue

AO
The way this story was going, I expected the absolutely gorgeous lady was one of your college conquests.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #11


Author:
Asiasunset
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Date Posted: 11:02:29 08/26/21 Thu

John Lista Rumson-FH, NJ 6-1 215 LB

Offers: Kent State, Navy, Air Force, Lehigh, Monmouth, Georgetown, Fordham, Lafayette, Maine, Rhode Island

1. Francesco Barone Hun School, NJ 6-1 200 Safety
2. Kadari Machen Gonzaga College High, DC 6-1 210LB
3. Ryan O’Connell Fairfield Prep, CT 6-2 212 LB
4. Dylan Price Sidwell Friends, MD 6-3 255 DE
5. Cam Wilson Gonzaga College High, DC 6-4 270 OL
6. Jake Bingham Hun School, NJ 6-3 285 OL
7. Sage Webb Richlands, VA 6-0 180 WR
8. Liam O’Brien Deerfield Academy, MA 6-1 197 QB
9. Patrick Hawkins Foothill School, CA 6-5 230 TE
10. Max Freeman West Forsyth, GA 6-4 275 OL
11. John Lista Rumson, NJ 6-1 215 LB

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #11


Author:
9.1 Quake
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Date Posted: 12:29:26 08/26/21 Thu

Also had a Dartmouth offer. From NJ.com where he ranked in their just released top 10 LBs in the state:

John Lista, Rumson-Fair Haven, Sr.

Height/weight: 6-1, 215

College: Undecided

Scouting report: A second team, All-Group 3 selection, Lista has upheld and exceeded the Rumson-Fair Haven tradition of stout inside linebackers.He is reactive, excellent at coming off blocks and a top-shelf run-stopper. He is also outstanding on the blitz. While still undecided about his college plans, Lista has offers from Kent State, Lehigh, Monmouth and Penn according to 247Sports. In eight games last season, Lista made 75 total tackles with four forced fumbles and three fumble recoveries.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #11


Author:
Warrior II
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Date Posted: 18:13:40 08/26/21 Thu

Both his father and uncle were outstanding players at Penn

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #12


Author:
Asiasunset
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Date Posted: 20:24:57 09/06/21 Mon

Isaac Shabay a RB from Colleyville TX

I’ll take a look tomorrow

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Penn Gets #12


Author:
Asiasunset
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Date Posted: 17:54:36 09/07/21 Tue

Isaac Shabay Colleyville Heritage, TX 5-9 195 RB
Offers: Dartmouth, Hardin-Simmons

1. Francesco Barone Hun School, NJ 6-1 200 Safety
2. Kadari Machen Gonzaga College High, DC 6-1 210 LB
3. Ryan O’Connell Fairfield Prep, CT 6-2 212 LB
4. Dylan Price Sidwell Friends, MD 6-3 255 DE
5. Cam Wilson Gonzaga College High, DC 6-4 270 OL
6. Jake Bingham Hun School, NJ 6-3 285 OL
7. Sage Webb Richlands, VA 6-0 180 WR
8. Liam O’Brien Deerfield Academy, MA 6-1 197 QB
9. Patrick Hawkins Foothill School, CA 6-5 230 TE
10. Max Freeman West Forsyth, GA 6-4 275 OL
11. John Lista Rumson, NJ 6-1 215 LB
12. Isaac Shabay Colleyville Heritage, TX 5-9 195 RB

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