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Subject: Re: Change: Yes We Can! Author: The Lion [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:24:49 06/25/08 Wed In reply to: IvyFB08 's message, "Change: Yes We Can!" on 19:00:25 06/25/08 Wed Thanks Ivy FB08 for some thought-provoking and original ideas, though not all are new or likely to break through the thick skulls of the Ivy presidents. I think the key to any meaningful change is to start with one achievement, and that's obviously the 11th game. Get rid of that silly scrimmage. Even small schools have been playing not just 11 but 12 games for years. If the Ivy Presidents refuse, why not get rid of the Presidents? And I'm not kidding. They bore the @#$%&#@! out of me. Who really needs them? They basically function as sappy politicians. They think they are President of the USA not a university. The Ivies will run just fine without them. Appoint headmasters instead who enjoy real learning as well as sports. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: The Divisions Author: AsiaSunset [Edit] Date Posted: 22:41:50 06/25/08 Wed I guess I'm confused here. I understand why there is a baseball playoff. There is no real round robin. You play 4 games against the 3 Division rivals and two each against the other 4 teams. It makes sense to have a best two out of three between Division Champs to crown a League Champ. But FB is a true round robin. A 7-0 team from the North Division could be matched up against a 4-3 team from the South Division. It's not analagous to baseball, nor to the concept of an Ivy basketball post season tourney where the tournament wouldn't determine the league champion; rather, the NCAA automatic bid recipient. We obviously have no fb post season to worry about. Perhaps you can elaborate on your thinking. The 11th game is really the missing piece. We all seem to agree on this point. Penn scrimmages Division 3 Widener two weeks before the season opener and then the players sit and watch everyone else in the country playing the following week. Even Widener now starts its season a week earlier than Penn does. It makes 0 sense to me.