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Subject: Re: Response From The Ivy League Office and the NCAA


Author:
ivy guy
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Date Posted: 15:31:26 11/04/21 Thu
In reply to: An Observer 's message, "Response From The Ivy League Office and the NCAA" on 14:39:45 11/04/21 Thu

A simple rule change would allow one coach from each team (likely the HC) to stand outside the sideline box for all 3+ OT situations.

This would allow the coach to position themselves at the line of scrimmage and more easily communicate with the line judge for a time-out.

Even this accommodation would be imperfect, but could have avoided the issue at the end of the Harvard-Princeton game.

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Author:
sparman
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Date Posted: 15:38:05 11/04/21 Thu

I was hoping someone would take the bull by the horns. Thanks.

It sounds like the NCAA has realized that the rule, as written and read literally, does not accomplish what the NCAA now wants it to accomplish. I will give them benefit of doubt that this was an inadvertent, or at least unforeseen, drafting error on their part for not having carefully thought through all the scenarios. But given the NCAA's consistent approach of ducking responsibility, as evidenced by meting out discipline to officials who merely applied the clear language of the rule as written by the NCAA, I also expect them to phrase whatever "clarification" they issue so as to minimize their own culpability.

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Leonlion
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Date Posted: 17:25:07 11/04/21 Thu

Doesn’t the rule as written refer to participant action on the field of play which, arguably, does not include a coach -- unseen by officials on the field of play – calling a time out? An unseen timeout “request” on the sideline outweighs actual play on the field?

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sparman
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Date Posted: 19:42:46 11/04/21 Thu

Here is the text of the rule:

"ARTICLE 7. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable. However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable. This excludes fouls that are not specifically reviewable (See Article 8, following)."

Which part are you interpreting as referring solely to participant action on the field?

I read "errors including those involving the play clock" (which is a subset of all errors that are correctable by the replay official) as including errors with the clock for any reason, among them errors attributable to time out issues.

Perhaps you might argue faIlure to grant a properly called time out is not egregious, but that seems like a judgment call, not a black and white prohibition.

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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 19:37:39 11/04/21 Thu

No, it doesn’t. Yes, it can. Read it.

https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR21.pdf

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