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Subject: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Sprint66
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Date Posted: 09:15:15 11/12/21 Fri

A very nice article in the Cornell Daily Sun regarding the rise of freshman QB Jameson Wang. One thing that is neat about Ivy League football, it's probably the most diverse activity on our campuses!


https://cornellsun.com/2021/11/10/i-have-to-earn-everything-freshman-qb-jameson-wang-describes-background-challenges-as-an-asian-american-in-football/

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[> Subject: He sounds like a very special young man


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 09:39:11 11/12/21 Fri

Good Luck , may he an Cornell find success. Especially this weekend and many more to follow. Go Red.!!!

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[> Subject: Good luck to him!


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 10:38:05 11/12/21 Fri


Obviously, I hope he saves his best for teams other than Dartmouth.

But it's hard not to want to root for him. Best I can tell, there have only been a small handful of minority quarterbacks to start a game in the Ivy...

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[> [> Subject: For those interested...


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:03:43 11/12/21 Fri


Here's a nice article about some of the pioneering African-American Ivy QBs.

http://ivy50.com/blackhistory/story.aspx?sid=1/14/2009

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[> Subject: Really Great Kid should be QB1


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Red Ivy
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Date Posted: 11:17:00 11/12/21 Fri

This kid should be the first team QB. Crazy to use 3 different quarterbacks in a game as they did I four games so far this year . If Cornell had given him the starting job they would have 2 to 3 additional wins by now.( Brown Bucknell, Yale)The problem is David Archer who does not know how to develop players. Cornell has had many fine recruits. They are very competitive in getting good talent. The problem is Archer who continually fails at bringing out the best in kids and the weak assistant coaches he has on staff.Hopefully Archer can get out of the way and let this kid play. Jameson Wang can run and has a great arm but most of all he is TOUGH. This season is a waste. Cornell will not beat Dartmouth but could beat Columbia. So it looks like either 2-8 or 3-7 for the Big RedRed. 8 consecutive losing seasons since Archer started as head coach. Hopefully Archer will be gone at the end of this year a new coach comes in and Wang leads the team. Then there is hope for Cornell fans! Are you listening President Martha Pollack and AD Andy Noel!

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[> Subject: Re: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Boston Lion
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Date Posted: 13:39:34 11/12/21 Fri

Yes, a nice article. And yet another object lesson in how Adversity University is the best university in the world, period.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Travis
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Date Posted: 14:08:10 11/12/21 Fri

I really liked reading this article. Thanks for posting and I'll be watching and rooting for young Mr. Wang over the next three seasons.

But I wish The Sun had not made his race the central theme of the article. Obviously, there are not a lot of Asian American Division I football players. So sure, he's a novelty.

But Boston Lion's post is a good one. Adversity teaches lessons that few other experiences can. To that end, I'd say the one who endured and learned from adversity is Jameson's father, who was immigrant in the family tree.

Jameson himself attended Harvard-Westlake School in Los Angeles, one of the best and most exclusive prep schools in the country, where he started on the varsity team as a 15-year old freshman. I can't in good conscience call his experience that of facing adversity.

Sure, maybe a couple of opponents or fans cracked a terrible, racist joke a time or two. If that's the worst thing to ever happen to Jameson, his life will be blessed.

I'm not trying to confrontational here, just trying to distinguish between a father who emigrates from China to Taiwan and then the US, where he threw himself into American culture and seems to have done well, versus the first American born generation which attends Harvard-Westlake and flourishes as the star quarterback, then moves on to the Air Force Academy and eventually the Ivy League.

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[> [> [> Subject: Okay


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:44:30 11/12/21 Fri


I certainly appreciate your perspective.

I will be curious, however, to see what you have to say when Penn's Aaron Jones starts producing on the field and some articles get written about him.

:)

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Okay


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Travis
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Date Posted: 15:56:00 11/12/21 Fri

You'll have to excuse me. I am not familiar with Aaron Jones' story. Is he related to the Packers' running back Aaron Jones? I am assuming that the Packer is not old enough to have a child in college.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Okay


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Smdeagles10
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Date Posted: 16:06:26 11/12/21 Fri

Aaron Jones is a freshman running back UPENN signed. Was all state in Maryland and had a bunch of offers. He was committed to Towson and we were able to steal him at the end. Big time get for us. Aaron was born deaf. Has a wonderful story. I was expecting him to step right into the rotation but didn't happen for whatever reason. In hindsight we should have played him.....but that's another story for another post. Anyhow he will tear up the league once he gets on the field. Google him...will be a tremendous success story for the league.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Okay


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Travis
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Date Posted: 16:34:23 11/12/21 Fri

Wow, fantastic.

Of all the many many inspiring stories among athletes, I find the ones involving personal physical handicaps the most moving. Athletes like Jim Abbott and Shaquem Griffin. Penn's Aaron Jones would fall into the same category. You can only imagine the ridicule that Abbott, Griffin and Jones faced as young athletes in elementary and middle school. Children of that age can be almost sadistically cruel to fully abled kids, let alone those with obvious handicaps. Talk about Adversity University. The handicapped kids enrolled in first grade.

I am quite confident that Jameson Wang faced some, perhaps a lot of, taunting in elementary school, especially if his family was still in Western New York prior to moving to Southern California. But Go Green, surely you are not equating Wang's challenges to those faced by Abbott, Griffin and Jones. That's what you seem to be implying.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Cam
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Date Posted: 17:20:34 11/12/21 Fri

From your tone it sure seems like you were trying to imply Jameson Wang did not have to deal with a lot just because he went to Harvard-Westlake. Seems to be a pattern of yours in your other posts trying to subtlety disrespect or disregard team or individual accomplishments.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Travis
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Date Posted: 17:46:00 11/12/21 Fri

I am deeply flattered that you read my posts with such a discerning literary eye. I had professors who did not review my work so carefully.

I think you're wrong, but then, I thought that some of them were wrong, too.

How do you feel about my sentence construction?

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[> Subject: Re: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Ivy Inquisitor (Ivy 1915 &1947)
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Date Posted: 17:46:58 11/12/21 Fri

My aunt immigrated from China and it sickens me to hear how the Chinese have been treated during COVID-19. This pandemic has been distressing for many of us. It's much more difficult for the Chinese because they don't know what's going to happen when they are in public. Chinese- Americans and Chinese in Asia have nothing to do with this virus.Our government do experiments nearly 100% of have no knowledge of.

Jameson Wang and his family's experience is worth publishing especially what's been happening the past two years.

1915 Brown smashed the athletic segregation with Fritz Pollard. In 1917 President Wilson said America was 1 to 2 generations from integration. Fritz Pollard went on to became the NFL's first black coach. In 1947 the Crimson 's Chet Pierce was the first black athlete to travel to the south to play against a white college. Jameson Wang may seem like a trailblazer to the media and fans but they're are not aware of Ivy football history.

Even though this conference is almost entirely forgotten to the point that many assume the Ivy League plays one 1 football game per year(Harvard vs. Yale). This conference continues to influence football. The most recent is making the game safer while staying competitive. Many look at the 19th century as the time Ivy basically created the sport by taking it away from its soccer & rugby like format and the first half of the 20th century they defined the sport (Ivy's halcyon era). This conference continues to quietly influence college football.

Penn's Jones reminded me of a 1990 deaf Nebraska Linebacker. His interpreter was on the sidelines. I think this player had a brief NFL career.
When the Jones story is told I hope the journalists interview the 1990 Nebraska player.

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[> [> Subject: PQ:May not need to find that Nebraska player.


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Valmas (Seized)
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Date Posted: 20:39:10 11/12/21 Fri

There was a kid on an upper echelon Ivy League football team at the same time that Nebraska linebacker played, and he was dealing with a similar challenge.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Cornel freshman QB Jameson Wang article.


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Ivy Inquisitor (More info please)
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Date Posted: 21:16:22 11/12/21 Fri

Michael, Could you please share the background of this player?

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[> [> [> Subject: Sworn to secrecy


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Valmas (Seized)
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Date Posted: 23:29:17 11/12/21 Fri

PQ: you understand, I'm sure, that some people do not want to permit their personal challenges to be made available for public consumption. And the tone of this thread is just so unappealing- these people are simply not worthy of my best material.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Sworn to secrecy


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Ivy Inquisitor (Understooy)
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Date Posted: 01:46:17 11/13/21 Sat

Michael Valmas: I understand and respect that you've abstained from sharing private information. In this social media era that is something that's been forgotten and not respected. Enjoy tomorrow's games.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Sworn to secrecy


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ivy guy
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Date Posted: 11:33:28 11/13/21 Sat

I am aware of an IL Football player in the last decade who was born deaf, and played linebacker with great success.

The only accomodation was an effort by the game officials to blow their whistles very loud and to raise their arm when the ball was dead--as the concern was a late hit. Both officials and competing coaches were aware and were very supportive.

He graduated, worked for an elite strategy consulting firm, and was accepted to a top MBA program.

Adversity builds success.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: If U believed that, i.g., you'd be at Baker today, watching a low scoring affair & buyingme a drink!


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Valmas (Siezed)
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Date Posted: 14:03:06 11/13/21 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Brown @ Columbia


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ivy guy
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Date Posted: 14:20:12 11/13/21 Sat

Michael, if I were in Inwood you would have a beverage in your hand.

I have had some health issues--bad but not covid-- that have limited my travel this year. I did catch a game in Providence earlier this season.

Now, waiting for the lightning-delay to clear.

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