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Subject: Re: Surace


Author:
P-Fan
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Date Posted: 08:34:12 11/21/21 Sun
In reply to: Bengal 's message, "Surace" on 20:55:54 11/20/21 Sat

I'm going to add to Tiger81 and M3's comments. I find it amusing that some on this thread believe that the Tigers underperformed this year. They had one hiccup this year and I believe that two road Friday night games back-to-back had a lot to do with it. The 2019 Dartmouth team was simply better than the Tigers. I don't believe that was the case this year. Just like Dartmouth had a hiccup against Columbia, the Tigers had theirs against Dartmouth. I've never been a fan of the "co-champions" approach in the IL, however, I also would not want a tie-breaker either to determine the title winner. In fact, you could make the argument that Dartmouth had a bad loss and the Tigers didn't. This is the second year in a row that Surace had to play a QB with virtually no experience. He also had a first year OC that needed a year under his belt. He lost three starters during the season, including Eaddy against Dartmouth. He's 27-3 over the last three years with two of those losses against Dartmouth and the other one against Yale, which was an aberration IMHO. So if you want to say that they are underperforming, it's true only if it's against Dartmouth. (and that's just during the last two years of play). I just hope that the Tigers keep "underperforming" like this year after year.

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Lion Rooter
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Date Posted: 09:29:30 11/21/21 Sun

I am willing to let bygones be bygones and give congrats to Princeton and Dartmouth on being co-champions. To bring up other issues related to game results, referee issues etc -- it sounds petty to me.

Things do change in Ivy sports -- we now have a hoops tournament, so who knows maybe some day Ivy football will be in the post season - which could settle any issues about who is the stronger or "true" champion.

I suspect that Dartmouth is having a hell of a kegger right now --and Princeton might be having some pork roll sammies with champagne or those new fangled cocktails the kids drink nowadays -- LOL

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Two Cents
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Date Posted: 09:49:15 11/21/21 Sun

Both Dartmouth and Princeton are very deserving champions. Both class programs and do things the right way. I don’t buy it that Surace and P underperformed. I thought Harvard was the favorite going into the season. Going 9-1 is a fantastic accomplishment in a very tough league now.

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