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Subject: Re: Attention Joe Friday and Acob: APB

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Date Posted: 18:05:14 12/08/21 Wed
In reply to: Bengal 's message, "Attention Joe Friday and Acob: APB" on 13:48:13 12/08/21 Wed

The battle being waged is that the IL faculties feels there are too many jocks and not enough academic superstars.

My personal observation is that without the athletic folks IL schools would be nothing more than academic incubators.

Presidents, proceed with caution.

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Date Posted: 22:31:42 12/08/21 Wed

Clearly, the issue raised by M3 has been the central question at Ivy colleges ever since admissions achieved some semblance of selectivity in the 1960s: Whom should we admit?

I have always felt that the Harvard admissions office said it very well when Fred Glimp quipped, "We're not trying to admit the best students. We're trying to admit the best alumni." That is the role a great university should play in society, developing the best and the brightest to their highest potential to contribute the most to the world at large.

We could have a long discussion about how best to do that. But clearly the simple starter question is, "Among the groups which have a favored status at the admissions office (recruited athletes, underrepresented ethnic minorities, alumni legacies, development cases -- that is, rich people's kids), which groups ultimately do go on to contribute the most to the world at large? Conversely, we should be cutting back on the groups which do not.

Only so many musical chairs to go around.

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