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Subject: Frost at Nebraska versus Harbaugh at Michigan versus Osborne Anywhere


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Date Posted: 14:33:57 12/10/21 Fri
In reply to: Acob 's message, "Big time OCs from BROWN" on 12:42:37 12/09/21 Thu

I will draw a parallel which only goes so far.

Jim Harbaugh won and won in style everywhere he went: San Diego, Stanford and the 49ers. He took over a Michigan team which then won a lot of games, but couldn't get over the hump in terms of winning a Big Ten championship or beating Ohio State in The Game.

Many people thought that Harbaugh should have been fired by now but, here in 2021, he has finally rewarded his supporters by, not only getting over the hump, but getting into the CFP.

Should Scott Frost receive the same patience at Nebraska?

Scott Frost won and won in style at UCF. He vastly overachieved beyond what anybody could have expected from him there. He returned to Lincoln as "the savior," just like Harbaugh.

But two things are different about Nebraska today, compared to their glory days, I mean, glory decades.

First, Nebraska is no longer in the same conference as Texas. The Huskers can no longer recruit effectively from the state of Texas, because mammas can no longer conveniently see their boys play in road games in the Lone Star State. You lose access to Texas schoolboy talent, you lose a lot.

Secondly, Tom Osborne. If there was any doubt as to the greatest college football coach ever, compare Nebraska football for the half century before Osborne first instituted his I-bone attack in the early 1970's as a graduate assistant offensive coordinator, to the ridiculous success which followed for the next three decades, and finally to the abject failure in the subsequent two decades.

Tom Osborne was the secret sauce.

I agree with Ivy Guy. Nebraska football is over.

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Date Posted: 16:18:05 12/10/21 Fri

That’s a load of sheet about Tom Osborne being an all timer. He cut a lot of corners to achieve success:

During the 80’s, Nebraska football was the poster child and hotbed for steroid use and guys like Steinkuhler and Rimington admitted to pervasive use with the lineman group

In the mid 90’s when they had their most success, Osborne brought in a lot of thugs and criminals who were primary contributors to team success, many of whom had domestic assault felonies against women and in many cases Osborne tried to intervene with the victims:

Lawrence Phillips - domestic assault and murder
Christian Peter: convicted of sexual assault
Tyrone Williams: felony assault
Ahman Green: domestic assault
Damon Benning: domestic assault
Riley Washington: second degree murder

Coaches like Osborne and Switzerl are definitely not in the top 20 of all time coaches

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