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Subject: Re: So just how good is Ivy Football really


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Diogenes
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Date Posted: 14:20:00 12/18/21 Sat
In reply to: jerrylh 's message, "So just how good is Ivy Football really" on 11:29:47 12/18/21 Sat

The question is: compared to what and why?

Ivy Hockey and Ivy Lacrosse are competitive with the best in the country because the Ivy schools want to be competitive with the best in the country.

Ivy Football is not competitive with the best in the country because the Ivy Schools do not want to be competitive with the best in the country.

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Bengal
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Date Posted: 15:51:11 12/18/21 Sat

Actually the number of college hockey programs is far less than college football programs including I believe in FCS. And while the numbers in college have grown, I believe there are significantly fewer college lacrosse programs than football. It isn’t just about IL policies.

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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 16:50:26 12/18/21 Sat

Ivy football is not competitive with Alabama and Notre Dame because we play college football and they play pro football.

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observer
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Date Posted: 20:21:10 12/20/21 Mon

you think those teams are good, what about fencing, squash, sailing, skiing, rugby, water polo and archery!

The true test of whether or not teams are good from a national perspective is whether they can compete against a field of 64 (68) drawn from 200+ competing D1 institutions.

To this end, Columbia Men's Tennis is one of the bigger success stories in the Ivies. 264 D1 schools compete. Columbia routinely advances to the round of 16.

For comparison, the D1 level at the following sports:
Men's Ice Hockey: 59
Men's Lacrosse: 70
Men's Track & Field: 250+
Men's Swimming & Diving: 143
Men's Basketball:350
Baseball: 300
Women's Ice Hockey: 36
Women's Lacrosse: 117
Women's Field Hockey: 79
Women's Tennis: 264
Women's Track & Field: 338
Women's Swimming & Diving: 200
Women's Basketball: 351
Softball: 286

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