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Subject: Re: So just how good is Ivy Football really


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Date Posted: 17:04:25 12/18/21 Sat
In reply to: Ghost of 1968 's message, "Re: So just how good is Ivy Football really" on 15:42:59 12/18/21 Sat

Have you been drinking again? Ask Holy Cross coach Chesney whether he thinks Ivy teams would compete in the FCS playoffs. His team was absolutely manhandled by Harvard and after the loss Chesney said as much. Holy Cross won their first round FCS playoff game against Sacred Heart, another FCS playoff team that is routinely beaten by Ivy teams. And Villanova was the #5 ranked team in all of FCS. Holy Cross played them even - see comments from Villanova coaches after that game.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the posters watch a lot of FCS games beyond the Ivy League. If you did, you would see that the top teams like H-D-P would be very competitive in the FCS playoffs.

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Ghost of 1968
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Date Posted: 18:07:47 12/18/21 Sat

So you think 3 of 8 would be very competitive in the playoffs?And this is based on comparative scores or one off games, very scientific data. I say 1 of 8. And how badly would the other
5 do? Aren't we talking about the whole league or just the three that have separated themselves from the rest? I don't drink.

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Two Cents
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Date Posted: 19:49:11 12/18/21 Sat

I actually watch the games. Did you watch Villanova play JMU? Did you watch Holy across play Villanova? Did you watch Harvard play Holy Cross?

I also don’t respect the constant ragging on Columbia and the rest of the Ivy League.

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Ghost of 1968
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Date Posted: 20:08:27 12/18/21 Sat

A little sensitive, perhaps? The question was how good is Ivy League Football, right? How many skilled players in the league would make an impact in other Leagues that send teams to the FCS Playoffs? Your comparative scores analysis is garbage.

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 20:23:48 12/18/21 Sat

Well, if we're going to compare Ivy League teams against other FCS teams which are winning or close to winning their own conference titles, doesn't it make sense to use our top teams in that comparison?

You're basically asserting that our weaker teams would be defeated by their strongest teams. That's not exactly a breaking news story.

It's only reasonable to compare like against like: Dartmouth Princeton and Harvard against their best teams. Besides, how many conferences can claim three 9-1 teams?

Maybe you should start drinking.

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Ghost of 1968
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Date Posted: 07:19:39 12/19/21 Sun

With most of those 9-1 wins coming against the bottom of Division 1 football. How many Ivy League guys have been drafted in the last 5 years? That’s an indication of football talent measured against others, wouldn’t you agree?

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 13:25:09 12/19/21 Sun

Harvard defeated a 9-1 team. Princeton defeated a 9-1 team. Dartmouth defeated two 9-1 teams.

No other conference can claim that.

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Huckleberry
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Date Posted: 02:32:44 12/19/21 Sun

Well it is true that comparing scores against common opponents is a waste of time for the most part, although it can sometimes be a rough indicator.

Columbia blows out Dartmouth. Dartmouth beats Harvard. Yet Harvard annihilated Columbia.

Harvard eviscerates Brown but barely slips past Cornell. Yet brown beat Cornell.

Penn blows out Bucknell, Bucknell beats Cornell. Yet cornell beat Penn.

It goes on and on. For all we know Nova would beat Harvard 42-10. Or maybe it'd be a close game. Impossible to say.

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Ghost of 1961
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Date Posted: 10:04:54 12/19/21 Sun

You are correct, using comparative scores is a waste of time.

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