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Subject: Transfer Portal


Author:
ivy guy
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Date Posted: 07:59:54 01/08/22 Sat
In reply to: M3 's message, "Re: The new age of college athletics" on 07:53:57 01/08/22 Sat

According to SI, 3,000-plus FBS and FCS players have entered the transfer portal in the past two months.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The new age of college athletics


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sparman
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Date Posted: 10:07:02 01/08/22 Sat

The following is slightly over simplified, but salary caps are legal primarily because the players are unionized and their union has accepted the cap as part of the collectively bargained agreement. Won't readily work in college football especially when there is no single league (employer) with which to reach an agreement.

I have long thought the best approach for players is to create a trust fund, sort of like Social Security, for players that is funded solely by college sports revenues to cover scholarship, room and board, and a simple stipend for expenses, with remaining proceeds shared equally by players. This way colleges would not be able to hold the threat of financial support over head of players.

As to uncapped coach salaries, there could be a baseball-style luxury tax (actually an excise tax) on coach salaries above some level that can be very generous. I know this would trigger the anti-socialist sentiments and is unlikely to be enacted in my lifetime, but it is a mechanism that would begin to address the issue of using public funds (tax revenues) for non-educational purposes. One might hope that public institutions normally opposed to such a vehicle might be sufficiently tired of being outspent by the Alabamas of the world and realize they will always be seond best under the current system, that they would welcome a chance to level the playing field.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The new age of college athletics


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observer
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Date Posted: 10:34:07 01/08/22 Sat

Public funds aren't used for coach salaries. By law, many states cap salaries of public employees. Boosters and sponsors pay the bulk of the $10 million annual payouts to Saban, et. al.

As to the perquisites of having a state trooper detail... and lavish offices and use of private jets... that's something else.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The new age of college athletics


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ivy guy
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Date Posted: 10:39:10 01/08/22 Sat

observer
I agree that the majority of Power 5 coach's compensation is paid from external sources (boosters, sponsorships etc).

But the NCAA requirements for "institutional control" mandate that the coaches be employees of the university. As noted, these salaries are not reflective of the total comp package.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The new age of college athletics


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sparman
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Date Posted: 13:23:07 01/08/22 Sat

Valid point. It seems to vary by school and also may be more the case with P5 schools than others.

https://athleticdirectoru.com/articles/making-sense-of-college-coaching-contracts/

https://athleticdirectoru.com/articles/how-innovative-group-of-5-leaders-are-changing-the-model-for-coaches-pay/

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The new age of college athletics- I agree


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Ghost of 1961
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Date Posted: 22:05:08 01/10/22 Mon

Glad I can add something to this but let's talk the football side. The Power 5 schools have figured out how to create their own bidding wars for talent through NIL sponsor-subsidized deals. This spring and summer, FCS schools will send their staffers to clinics and think tanks so they can learn how to compete for talent. So very soon, even at the FCS level, you'll see only the NIL deal-deprived skill players in the CAA, Patriot, NEC and Ivy Leagues and the level of play will continue to bottom out. If you're all playing each other, you won't notice it. But if you turn on your television......

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: FCS level of play will actually increase - quickly


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Joe Friday
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Date Posted: 12:37:18 01/15/22 Sat

The NIL effect is actually secondary, because the number of guys who are in that end of the pool is very, very small - generally, P5 and maybe a few G5 guys who actually play on a regular basis or who are projected to get on the field sooner rather than later….and maybe a few guys within the usual FCS powers in isolated markets who regularly play in December, but that’s really it.

What’s happening right now as we type here: the portal is like the low ground after a big storm: saturated, and it’s not draining. Two and three star prospects who weren’t realistic about where they really fit with on the field skill level are awakening to the fact that they will likely never get onto the field unless someone else gets hurt….and you can’t put it on film if you’re not the field. So, most of those P5 guys who have been sitting are hoping to land in G5. G5 guys in the same posture are looking to go to high level FCS and so on. Yes they’re all getting pushed down, but they’re bringing their higher-than-what-you-usually-see skills with them to all levels of the FCS. Sooner rather than later you’re going to see legit FBS guys grateful for the opportunity to actually play in the Pioneer League of the FCS…don’t get me wrong: they’re definitely better than that level, but the roster management challenges and sheer competition just squeeze them down. The level of play will go up accordingly, which will benefit the FCS, generally. I have to think that from a talent standpoint it will help the IL programs, because there will be more AI qualified guys who won’t throw the dice with an FBS program and instead will take the (likely) smoother path to the field with an IL program. It’s actually already happening in the IL.

The big losers in this are the solid HS prospects who just can’t get onto any D1 roster (FBS or FCS) unless they’re willing to take a PWO and prove it…you do have to prove it every year, but you know what I mean…and then financial considerations may preclude them from taking even that limited opportunity…at which point the JCs will see a pop in interest as more guys use it out if necessity as a spring board….but even they assumedly have roster limitations.

Programs from FCS and up will be adding GM-type staff in the next year or two solely to help with roster management and the ever increasing fluidity of the (effectively) free agent market.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: FCS level of play will actually increase - quickly


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Ghost of 1961
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Date Posted: 18:30:35 01/15/22 Sat

You could be right, but the top of the FCS will figure out how to lure next level talent with NIL deals. We'll see if there's a further separation from the top to the bottom of the FCS.

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