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Subject: Yes, but Goodbye to All That Author: sparman [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 08:34:34 05/24/24 Fri In reply to: Ivy Inquisitor 's message, "Will college sports exist in year?" on 19:15:10 05/23/24 Thu https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/05/24/ncaa-paying-college-athletes/ Note the near-throwaway observation at the end that these developments are actually an argument in favor of unionization for players. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: RedWin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:48:07 05/24/24 Fri If the so called Power 5 conferences want to go to professional sports then let them. Meanwhile, the value of a good college education cannot be understated. In my high school we had a wide receiver who was "All Everything" and he had a great college career, then played in the NFL for two seasons but was hampered by hamstring injuries, thus cut in his third training camp. Fortunately he was a very good student and took his bonus money and went to a top MBA program. Today he's a managing director at for a major investment bank, where he's worked his entire career. He has even worked abroad for several years. Meanwhile some of his former teammates are just barely scraping by. The Ivy and Patriot Leagues need to sell the education first and in the long run I think it will improve the level of play on the field. Even if you're a super talent, many of them have moved onto professional sports and made a lot of money. Just ask "Fitz". Go Ivy League!

[> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: Ivy Inquisitor [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:05:22 05/24/24 Fri Selling academics have always been our eight schools recruiting emphasis. I have to admit as many know how much as I’ve railed against this conference’s illogical anarchic hypocritical agenda towards barring postseason football. While the other 32 sports are allowed to play in the postseason. I’ve even suggested a conditional playoff spot for an undefeated Ivy team and a bowl that will award an auxiliary(private school, non scholarship)national championship. If the Ivy League football were in the 1A I’d prefer their current model than to be subjected to the upcoming playoff format.

[> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:44:34 05/24/24 Fri Why even recruit? Why not all walk-ons? If the mental acuity of the athlete is the selling point - why even play the game with the standard deviations of the AI?

[> [> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: RedWin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:10:19 05/31/24 Fri Of course the Ivy League and all other conferences need to recruit. I also think every NCAA sport should always make walk-on spots available. Jim Boeheim of Syracuse had wallk-on players throughout his career. Regardless of professional opportunities, the vast majority of student-athletes even in the Power 5 conferences will not be going pro after graduation. I also think the NIL contracts while attractive now, are most likely not sustainable for the majority of businesses offering them to college players. Look at all these great college players who basically wash out quickly in the NFL, etc.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:48:24 05/31/24 Fri If the NIL money comes from boosters and others who want to create a strong "college" team, how the players fare in the NFL won't affect their willingness to pay players in college. In these Power 5 (or 2?) conferences, the prevailing dogma is football, so I don't see that changing - only intensifying.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: Tiger69 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:40:06 06/01/24 Sat Let’s not get on that train. My modest $ goes to the U. and teams in general, NOT to any NIL.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:01:40 06/01/24 Sat NIL collectives are not for those with modest donations.

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: A possible opportunity for the Ivy League Author: Lurker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:52:55 06/02/24 Sun I am still somewhat surprised that some contrarian IL billionaire hasnt decided a few mil$ doled out as NIL would be a fun way to give a poke in the eye to the powers that be of their alma mater