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Subject: Re: We don't get no respect because we don't promote. Author: foehi [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 16:26:18 05/10/08 Sat In reply to: huh 's message, "Re: We don't get no respect because we don't promote." on 08:19:02 05/10/08 Sat If that happens, the world will end and it won't matter [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Then why do Harvard and Yale lead in attendance???. Author: Sprint66 [Edit] Date Posted: 17:04:03 05/10/08 Sat Hey Huh....Yale (which is basically a NY suburb and former home of the NY Jets) and Harvard in Boston traditionally lead the Ivy League in home football attendance every year. So I don't understand your arguement. In 2006 and 2007, Cornell football had 5-5 identical records, but in 2007 the Cornell athletic department made a real effort to improve attendance and drew over 10K for their first three home games and averaged just shy of 9K for the season, compared to 5K average the previous year. Additionally, Cornell really did an excellent job of promoting basketball this past season and we had sell-out or near sell-out crowds all season. This is a team that previously drew crowds in the 500 - 600 range. Sure we won the league but we didn't know that back in November. Additionally the Cornell basketball team received much better media coverage this season as well. Same goes for our lacrosse team. So whether it's Columbia baseball (great job Lions!) or any other Ivy team, if we advocate for our teams we'll get better attendance which leads to better media coverage, which ultimately leads to better recruiting, and better quality play. Go Ivy League!!!

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Then why do Harvard and Yale lead in attendance???. Author: foehi [Edit] Date Posted: 18:55:54 05/10/08 Sat I don't disagree that the Ivies do a pretty poor job promoting their teams. However, Cornell and Yale have a bit of an advantage over the others (except Dartmouth). There is absolutely nothing else to do in Ithaca or New Haven. There is a lot else to do in NY, Phil, Boston and even Providence. Hanover is another story.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Then why do Harvard and Yale lead in attendance???. Author: Huh [Edit] Date Posted: 07:31:01 05/11/08 Sun Maybe because they alternate the only game of interest in the league every year.... The H/Y game skews attendance figures completely.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: We don't get no respect because we don't promote. Author: CU_88 [Edit] Date Posted: 17:25:22 05/10/08 Sat Yale is 2 hours from NYC (the Giants played in the Yale bowl for 2 years while Giants stadium was being built), so they do not lose fans to pro sports. In addition they do a good job of marketing to attract the family crowd . It helps that the Yale-Harvard game attracts 50k every year. Winning is also the best tool to attact fans. If CU had a winning tradition we would easily attract 3 or 4 k more fans . This year Cornell basketball was predicted to win the league and they were coming off of a 9-5 year in 2007.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: We don't get no respect because we don't promote. Author: boola [Edit] Date Posted: 17:40:33 05/10/08 Sat Yale has tradionally done a good job of promoting the football program including commercials for upcoming games on local tv stations. Being close to NYC definitely helps but there are also lot of Yalies living conveniently close by to go to the games. A good number live in nearby Ct. towns and quite a few from NJ and Mass have season tickets.