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Subject: Re: A New Thougt Author: Bengal [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:42:47 03/17/25 Mon In reply to: joiseyfan 's message, "A New Thougt" on 12:37:10 03/17/25 Mon Penn had some great teams in that stretch. But I am not following you. What are you saying is the huge accomplishment regarding the AI? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: A New Thougt Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:20:49 03/17/25 Mon The Ivies were all essentially free to admit whatever basketball players they wished, and still one program was remarkably able to win the 14-game tournament six years running. Of course, this was also the period when Carril started to refer to the Princeton admission office as Heartbreak Hotel.

[> [> [> Subject: Who won what six years running? Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:30:23 03/17/25 Mon

[> [> [> Subject: Re: A New Thought Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:55:25 03/17/25 Mon Not that difficult: Penn’s men NCAAs 1970-76 Princeton’s women NCAAs 2018-19, 2022-25 (two postseasons out for COVID)

[> [> [> [> Subject: Thank you, but I'm a nitpicker. Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:29:24 03/18/25 Tue Not really 'six years running' but 6 consecutive possible NCAA tournament appearances. And, I'm sorry that I was late in reading your earlier statement on this, wherein you listed the six straight men's tournament appearances by Penn which actually began at the end of the 69-70 season and ran till the end of the 74-75 season. Carril won the NIT in 75 and came back to win the league championship and NCAA tournament bid the following two years with Billy Omeltchenko.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: A New Thougt Author: Bengal [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:30:22 03/17/25 Mon And you think, therefore, they all fished in the same academic pool pre-AI?

[> [> [> Subject: Re: A New Thought Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:26:47 03/18/25 Tue Just to rereclarifyclarify, my only assertion was that all the schools were FREE to fish in the same academic pool. (Dartmouth has great teams in the ‘50s, for example, and Cornell and Columbia in the ‘60s.)

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: A New Thought Author: Bengal [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:25:55 03/19/25 Wed Yes, and some fished a lot deeper than others. There was/is more than one factor in relative Ivy basketball competitiveness. But what I took to be your original observation that it was more difficult to win 6 consecutive titles pre-AI than after its use is exactly the opposite of what, in my opinion, is the case.