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Date Posted: 10:37:19 07/18/01 Wed
Author: Melanie
Subject: Re: Dear god.......................................
In reply to: The jolly atheist 's message, "Dear god......................................." on 04:54:49 09/09/00 Sat

You don't understand because you haven't researched enough of God's word to even to begin to understand. There is a lot of History involved and I've learn't also that I always end up with the answer if I trust him to answer me.

He gives us pain because he wants us to choose between him or evil. If he didn't let us choose it would be like forcing us to love him and he doesn't want to do that (I don't blame him) He wants us to relize that we can't make it on our own and will never be happy on our own and that we need him to be truely happy. If we choose "Satan's ways" then we get "Satan's concequences" Pain.

Nobody fully understands God, but I can gaurantee you that if you only ask him for quidence and just try as hard as you can to believe then I can gaurantee you will see results. If you don't then your just not trying to believe hard enough. He doesn't answer selfish requests either....only those that support his will. Love, kindness, happiness etc... The only way you'll understand is if you just try to believe for a little while. I can gaurantee your life will improve 10 x's as much.

Jesus is moaning and Groaning about the pain because the pain isn't over for him untill he comes back to rule the earth for 1000 years (peace on earth). You see Jesus died for our sins on the cross so that we may be forgiven our sins if we believe in him. Jesus is crucified over and over again to this day as long as we keep on hurting eachother. That's why he says in the Bible. "Did I die on the cross in Vein?" He says this because he feels that his gratitude and the beutiful thing he did for us is going to waste because we don't seem to use the gift of salvation he's given us or even care. (We are not asking for forgiveness for sinning)

People don't understand that he in essence is One with God and is pretty much god that's why he came to earth as a human because he realized his "Wrath" wasn't working very well so he was offering a better approach to get us closer to him. He didn't want to keep killing us because he loved us so much. He died on the cross for us because he is our father and he loves us unconditionally. He loves us to a degree will never understand yet we keep sinning.

By the way it worked for me...I was a miserable &*%$# for the longest time...then I had a spiritual awakening (Dream) I started trying to believe. It did take about a month of praying and hard work ( take an 1/2 hr each day devote to him) I am there though I've never been happier and I've never believed in him so much. My eyes are opened and I owe it all to him.

Also when you think about it what have you got to lose...from the sound of it your in pain now? Anyways do you really want to take the chance of gods wrath on judgement day? If he doesn't exist...you really haven't lost anything, but if your wrong...the judgement is final and you'll suffer forever.



ear god,if you love us so much,why did you give us
>the capacity to feel pain?Allegedly,your son jesus was
>crucified 2000 years ago,so why is he still moaning
>about it?Lots of other people were crucified as
>well,but jesus is the only one to come back from the
>dead and bore us to tears about how terrible it
>was.Well i'm sorry jesus,but we're not going to worry
>about you're suffering any more,because your suffering
>is OVER.Instead we are going to worry about all the
>suffering that is going on today.Bye bye jesus.

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