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Date Posted: 01:00:59 01/02/03 Thu
Author: Jeff
Subject: another religious person that needs to see the light
In reply to: Melanie 's message, "Re: Dear god......................................." on 10:37:19 07/18/01 Wed

>You don't understand because you haven't researched
>enough of God's word to even to begin to understand.
>There is a lot of History involved and I've learn't
>also that I always end up with the answer if I trust
>him to answer me.
>
>He gives us pain because he wants us to choose between
>him or evil. If he didn't let us choose it would be
>like forcing us to love him and he doesn't want to do
>that (I don't blame him) He wants us to relize that we
>can't make it on our own and will never be happy on
>our own and that we need him to be truely happy. If we
>choose "Satan's ways" then we get "Satan's
>concequences" Pain.

Ya, you controdicted yourself there... he created pain so we would chose him over evil? yet he wanted us not to be forced to go to him... worship me or live an eternity of pain, for if you do not worship me, you are evil... I don't care if you never asked for this... I don't care if I was the one that made you weak as too need me... to put you on this earth in your weak condition for a test then have you begg for my forgivness so that I will save you... YOUR ALL EVIL!! ALL OF YOU!!! but I love you anyway.

>Nobody fully understands God, but I can gaurantee you
>that if you only ask him for quidence and just try as
>hard as you can to believe then I can gaurantee you
>will see results. If you don't then your just not
>trying to believe hard enough. He doesn't answer
>selfish requests either....only those that support his
>will. Love, kindness, happiness etc... The only way
>you'll understand is if you just try to believe for a
>little while. I can gaurantee your life will improve
>10 x's as much.

Ya, you forgot lose all sence of reason and let your IQ
drop 40 points, then start praying and asking god for help.

>Jesus is moaning and Groaning about the pain because
>the pain isn't over for him untill he comes back to
>rule the earth for 1000 years (peace on earth). You
>see Jesus died for our sins on the cross so that we
>may be forgiven our sins if we believe in him. Jesus
>is crucified over and over again to this day as long
>as we keep on hurting eachother. That's why he says in
>the Bible. "Did I die on the cross in Vein?" He says
>this because he feels that his gratitude and the
>beutiful thing he did for us is going to waste because
>we don't seem to use the gift of salvation he's given
>us or even care. (We are not asking for forgiveness
>for sinning) People don't understand that he in essence is >One with
>God and is pretty much god that's why he came to earth
>as a human because he realized his "Wrath" wasn't
>working very well so he was offering a better approach
>to get us closer to him. He didn't want to keep
>killing us because he loved us so much. He died on the
>cross for us because he is our father and he loves us
>unconditionally. He loves us to a degree will never
>understand yet we keep sinning.

pretty smart, merciful, all powerful god, hu? I don't know about you but that deffinitly makes me want to follow a god who has no idea what he is doing, so he makes the mistake of killing a couple million or so people, THEN tries another method by killing his son instead. Ya, the faith is rushing in. and what is mortal pain to a god anyway... pain is nothing more then electrical signals sent to and fro from your brain, giving the illusion of pain... and yet, Jesus, our god all mighty could not get over that? Pain should be nothing to his greatnell but just another feeling... otherwise he to is weak...

>By the way it worked for me...I was a miserable &*%$#
>for the longest time...then I had a spiritual
>awakening (Dream) I started trying to believe. It did
>take about a month of praying and hard work ( take an
>1/2 hr each day devote to him) I am there though I've
>never been happier and I've never believed in him so
>much. My eyes are opened and I owe it all to him.

I'm sorry. Most people go through hard times... some find religion, which gives a sence of communion and hope for something more that is protecting you, thereby giving you a false sence of warmth and a relationship with some god.

>Also when you think about it what have you got to
>lose...from the sound of it your in pain now? Anyways
>do you really want to take the chance of gods wrath on
>judgement day? If he doesn't exist...you really
>haven't lost anything, but if your wrong...the
>judgement is final and you'll suffer forever.

Is that a threat??? beleive in him, just in case. If he does exist then you will be saved, but if he doesn't, then you have wasted your only time that you have.

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