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Date Posted: 15:08:44 05/18/06 Thu
Author: Leatherface
Subject: Re: Valpo leaving
In reply to: Leatherface 's message, "Re: Valpo leaving" on 13:36:47 05/17/06 Wed

How about looking into the Ohio Valley? Football might be less competitive, but everything else is very stable. The Mid-Con situation is scary. If Centenary should leave, the Big Sky pick up SDSU and NDSU, that leaves the Mid_con dead. Be proactive, lets try for the Ohio Valley. They have 11 schools, give them an even dozen. Western has few if any other options.There is nowhere else to go. Even SUU is a tenuous member. They have said travel is a huge problem.WIU has had great success with Ohio Valley schools, men's basketball is good. Lets not be left out in the cold . Even ORU has always indicated a desire for the Sunbelt.For those who think the MVC is a possibility- that will never happen. If they ever add anyone, it will be a big name to increase their current high RPI. They are on a roll. Macomb has no media market.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- Leatherface, 18:14:45 05/19/06 Fri

No other comments?

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- John Walker, 22:58:54 05/20/06 Sat

Is Utah Valley State being considered for expansion? Denver University? If those two schools were added along with NDSU, SDSU and IPFW, the Mid-Con could have an east-west division that wouldn't be too bad and lower travel costs.

West: SUU, UVS, Denver, NDSU, SDSU, Centenary

East: Oakland, IPFW, IUPUI, WI, UMKC, ORU

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- Neckfansince71, 08:54:16 05/21/06 Sun

Not sure how long Centenary would want to be in the West!?

jc

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- Leatherface, 09:24:37 05/21/06 Sun

Don't know if Denver is a possibility, seems I read somewhere they were not a player. Yes, Centanary is a long way from SUU. If John's east/ west is a possibility, it could help the Mid Con survive. But, Western hopefully will keep their options open on a daily basis.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- Leatherface, 12:40:11 05/26/06 Fri

I'm not an expert in any way regarding NCAA bylaws. But, from other boards discussion, it seems the Mid-Con must keep it's current members for at least five years to keep the auto bid in BB. This with any new additions,Valpo leaving etc. Wow, this is scary. Do any Leathernecks know enough about this to explain? What about Baseball auto bid? Has this been affected?

I still wonder about the Ohio Valley. I know football would get hurt somewhat, but, we need to keep the entire WIU athletic program in focus.Should WIU just take a wait and see attitude. To me this is dangerous.We might look around and find WIU back with Chicago State.(wherever that might be)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- Reality Check, 01:51:23 05/27/06 Sat

The Mid-Con could lose it's automatic bid very easily.

The rules as I understand them are:

Seven of the conference schools must be D-1 the past eight years.

Six conference schools must be in the same conference for the past five years.

So the Mid-Con is in trouble.

I'm not a fan of the OVC, though we would be the perfect travel partner for EIU, too many teams in Tenn, Alabama.
Only EIU and SE Mo will be close to Macomb. But if the OVC is our only option then I'm all for it.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Valpo leaving -- 89rabbit, 13:39:35 05/27/06 Sat

My take is, that the Mid-Con could lose one more current member, and still keep it's auto bid as long as they have added one new member(and probably more then just one to play it safe). Reason being I believe that Centenary just finished their 3rd year in the Mid-Con. Valpo is still a member though next season getting Centenary through year 4. The NCAA has a two year grace period that gets Centenary to year 5 and that makes them a counter for both requirments.

It looks to me that IPFW is a no brainer and I hope NDSU and SDSU are added to provide the Mid-Con with some much needed stability.

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