VoyForums
Oklahoma Disaster Relief










American Red Cross
Together, we can save a life


See Kare11.com's page for more ways to contribute.

VoyForums Notice -- Quick Contributions:
Donate $10 to the Red Cross: Text the word REDCROSS to 90999
Donate $10 to the Salvation Army: Text the word STORM to 80888
* The charge will appear on your cellphone bill.


VoyUser Login optional ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1234 ]


[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 17:05:32 06/21/06 Wed
Author: Leatherface
Subject: North Dakota moving up

U of North Dakota moving up to D1. Would assume they would have their eye on the Mid-Con for the future.Don't really like the idea of the Mid-Con being the conference for newbies.But, maybe down the road it will be more stable.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Replies:

[> Re: North Dakota moving up -- Leatherface, 08:27:08 06/22/06 Thu

Now U of South Dakota thinking of moving up! Geeeez.The Mid -Con will become a magnet for newbies. Thats not good for Western.IMHO

[ Post a Reply to This Message ]
[ Edit | View ]


[> Re: North Dakota moving up -- rabidrabbit, 12:51:53 06/22/06 Thu

Just add schools already into, close to transition end, like NDSU/SDSU. We'd add much to the Mid-con, and be right there with the top schools in most of our sports quickly.

Need to grab IPFW also for the auto-bid protection.

[ Post a Reply to This Message ]
[ Edit | View ]

[> [> Re: North Dakota moving up -- Reality Check, 23:13:52 06/22/06 Thu

How does adding IPFW protect the Mid-Con from losing it's automatic bid?

[ Post a Reply to This Message ]
[ Edit | View ]


[> Re: North Dakota moving up -- rabidrabbit, 11:11:02 06/27/06 Tue

Here's the NCAA NCAA bylaw


QUOTE
"31.3.4.3 Additional Requirements, Men's Basketball. The member conference must include seven core institutions. For the purposes of this legislation, core refers to an institution that has been an active member of Division I the eight preceding years. Further, the continuity-of-membership requirement shall be met only if a minimum of six core institutions have conducted conference competition together in Division I the preceding five years in men's basketball. There shall be no exception to the five-year waiting period. Further, any new member added to a conference that is satisfying the continuity of membership requirements shall not represent the conference as the automatic qualifier until the institution satisfies the requirement for a core member (i.e., active member of Division I for eight years.) Any new member added to a member conference that satisfies these requirements shall be immediately eligible to represent the conference as the automatic qualifier."


A new DI school effectively has two hurdles to pass: five years to become a DI member and an additional eight years to become a DI core member. Conferences need to ensure "core" members stay well above six in the event of a defection.

The earliest UND could be a DI eligible member is 2011-12 (if it declares June 1st). UND wouldn't be a core member until 2019-20. NDSU and SDSU wouldn't be core members until 2016-17. A conference really has to have a long-term horizon and firm membership in order to accept any of us.

[ Post a Reply to This Message ]
[ Edit | View ]

[> [> Re: North Dakota moving up -- rabidrabbit, 11:26:58 06/27/06 Tue

Further, the continuity-of-membership requirement shall be met only if a minimum of six core institutions have conducted conference competition together in Division I the preceding five years in men's basketball. ANY MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN D-I PRIOR TO 2003 ARE "CORE-ELIGIBLE". IPFW - 2000, UT-PA sometime in 90's. Therefore, only have to be part of conference for 2 years to keep auto-bid.

Even if Centenary dropped out, the above would still be ok, as long as other schools (IPFW,SDSU,NDSU) replaced them.

Correct that is why if the Mid-Con adds IPFW (or Texas-Pan Am) they would have to lose 2 of the remaining 7 members to lose their auto bid. Again, not very likely.

[ Post a Reply to This Message ]
[ Edit | View ]




VoyUser Login ] Not required to post.
Post a public reply to this message | Go post a new public message
* HTML allowed in marked fields.
Message subject (required):

Name (required):

  Expression (Optional mood/title along with your name) Examples: (happy, sad, The Joyful, etc.) help)

  E-mail address (optional):

* Type your message here:

Choose Message Icon: [ View Emoticons ]

Notice: Copies of your message may remain on this and other systems on internet. Please be respectful.
The Voy.com User Agreement applies to all visitors.

[ Contact Forum Admin ]


Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 2.94, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2012 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.