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Subject: Ah, another a true American. who supports the Troops & OUR President.


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Date Posted: 20:46:06 04/03/08 Thu
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In reply to: John 's message, "Ah, a true American. She supports the Troops & OUR President. She shows the hypocracy of the Democrats." on 14:02:42 04/04/07 Wed

Conner must not have read a single word of the rhetoric coming from the imams, ayatollahs and mullahs for the last 35 years, and must not have seen OBL and followers bragging about the 9/11 attacks and promising more, or have read Iraq's state controlled newspaper articles praising Al Qaeda, or seen the CNN article from 2/13/99 reporting that Saddam offered OBL asylum in Iraq:

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9902/13/afghan.binladen/

Or seen this article, quoting articles in the LA Times and Newsweek he also didn't see, and Iraq's state controlled newpaper, run by Saddam's son Uday Hussein:

"Throughout the 1990s, the Iraqi regime hosted Popular Islamic Conferences in Baghdad, gatherings modeled after conferences Turabi hosted in Khartoum. Mark Fineman, a reporter for the Los Angeles Times, attended one of the conferences and filed a story about his experience on January 26, 1993. "There are delegates from the most committed Islamic organizations on Earth," he wrote. "Afghan mujahedeen (holy warriors), Palestinian militants, Sudanese fundamentalists, the Islamic Brotherhood and Pakistan's Party of Islam." Newsweek's Christopher Dickey attended the same conference and wrote about it in 2002. "Islamic radicals from all over the Middle East, Africa, and Asia converged on Baghdad," he wrote, "to show their solidarity with Iraq in the face of American aggression. . . . Every time I hear diplomats and politicians, whether in Washington or the capitals of Europe, declare that Saddam Hussein is a 'secular Baathist ideologue' who has nothing to do with Islamists or terrorist calls to jihad, I think of that afternoon and I wonder what they're talking about. If that was not a fledgling Qaeda itself at the Rashid convention, it sure was Saddam's version of it."

Iraqi leaders frequently touted their Islamist credentials. "We are blessed in this country for having the Islamic holy warrior Saddam Hussein as a leader, who is guiding the country in a religious holy war against the infidels and nonbelievers," said Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, one of Saddam's top deputies, in an address to the terrorist confab. On August 27, 1998, 20 days after al Qaeda attacked the U.S. embassies in Africa, Babel, the government newspaper run by Saddam's son Uday Hussein, published an editorial proclaiming Osama bin Laden "an Arab and Islamic hero."

None of this is a secret, as the press coverage attests. But the authors of the Senate report seem determined to write it out of the history. On what basis do the authors claim that Saddam Hussein was "resistant" to cooperation with Islamists? The finding is sourced to "postwar detainee debriefs--including debriefs of Saddam Hussein and Tariq Aziz." Well then, that settles it."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/710goolj.asp

But what does any of the above matter--John Conner's got a website and conspiracy theories to peddle.

Bonaduce was right on the mark: "Who the *beep* are YOU?"


by ancatdoh (Wed Dec 20 2006 06:57:05) Ignore this User | Report Abuse


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Yeah, I'm keenly aware of all that. What it has to do with the stupid idea that 9/11 was an "inside job" is a mystery wrapped in an enigma inside a riddle hidden in Michael Moore's rolls of flab.

My perspectives on the ME come from the fact that I was born in Beirut, Lebanon in 1962, while my dad was a Foreign Area Specialist attached to the US embassy from 1960 to 1964. He wrote and spoke fluent arabic and traveled throughout the region.

I've been reading up on ME history and geopolitics my whole life, and have not limited myself to the simple minded pablum vomited up by US media sources and the rantings of crank websites.

How many books (with no pictures) about ME history, culture and geopolitics translated from Arabic and Farsi by the US State Department have you read?

I've read over 400.

YES, bin Laden was a CIA operative, and at the time, the Cold War was in full swing. His motivation was to throw Communist invaders out of an Islamic nation, which served US strategic interests just as providing weapons and aid to Stalin during WWII served US strategic interests at that time. It's called geopolitics.

Bin Laden turned on the Saudi government when they refused to allow him to try to expel Saddam from Kuwait using jihadism. Bin Laden was told "Kuwait is not Afghanistan." He became even more enraged when the Saudis asked for the US to come to Saudi Arabia to protect it from Saddam's Army, allowing "infidels," (US and all other non-Muslims) to tread upon the same sacred land where Mecca and Medina are. Bin Laden turned on the US for the transgression of coming to Saudi Arabia and basing troops there with the blessing of the Saudi royal family.

It's all about religion for bin Laden. That's all he talks about, and all that motivates his demented followers.

Hate Bush? I don't really give a rat's bootie. The WTC was attacked for the first time in 1993, and Al Qaeda attacked US bases and embassies in the ME half a dozen times during Clinton's two terms. Was Clinton in on it too?

Anybody who thinks Al Qeada and other Islamic terror groups conspired with the US goverment to do 9/11 is an idiot who willfully ignores the rhetoric and actions of Islamic fundamentalists for the last 35 years in favor of the verbal flatulence of Conner and the teenie bopper blame-America-first whining of Michael Moore.

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