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>Hello, > >Bikers, your language needs you! > >We are trying to find out the origins of the phrase >"[b]bog-standard[/b]" > >It's now a commonly used phrase, but may have >originated in biker circles, possibly from >"box-standard" i.e. "straight out of the box" or >"unmodified". > >To explain, we are producing a major television series >in conjunction with the BBC and the Oxford English >Dictionary on the English language, and we need your >help to rewrite the dictionary. > >At present the first evidence the OED has for >"[b]bog-standard[/b]" is from 1983 and relates to >computers, but we think the term was around before >this. Do you agree? Have you got any biking >memorabilia to prove the computer bods didn't invent >it? Or is there another explanation? > >We would really like to talk to anyone who had a Box >Standard bike back in the day or anyone who has any >leads on where this phrase comes from. > >Can you help or do you know of just the right person >for us to talk to? > >I look forward to hearing from you. > >Katie

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