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Date Posted: 11/12/07 3:47:20pm
Author: MarkM
Subject: Re: Let's Talk About Bag Limits for Deer
In reply to: Jim 's message, "Let's Talk About Bag Limits for Deer" on 11/12/07 11:28:49am

>Alright people! Now's the time to voice your opinions.
>
>The FWC Whitetail Deer Management Team will be
>discussing changing the bag limits for deer in Florida
>in the real near futue.
>
>Reasoning:
>1. Deer in Florida are not over populated nor at
>maximum carrying capacity for the habitat. How you can
>tell is the deer your harvesting is healthy.
>
>2. All you see is does you say! It's not because there
>are too many does, it's because there aren't enough
>bucks.
>
>FWC says that's because we have over harvested the
>bucks. Therefore there needs to be a change made from
>2 deer a day every day of the season to something a
>little more reasonable that will help build buck
>numbers.
>
>3. Doe harvest is not the answer since it's gonna take
>does to produce more bucks. Doe harvest will only be
>considered for WMA's where the deer population is
>above carrying capacity and I haven't seen any of
>those around here. The biologists will determine when
>and where they need to be taken and offer doe permits
>for those areas.
>
>4. Private land will still be able to harvest does to
>thin their numbers (doe week) and it is assumed by the
>commission these lands and herd are being managed
>properly.
>
>
>WHAT IS THE BAG LIMIT OF BUCKS PER HUNTING SEASON THAT
>YOU COULD LIVE WITH AND WHY??

First, who ever made that rule must of been a poacher...

From a logical standpoint, we have three seasons, so Three Bucks should be the least we except...

Question: these Bucks, will it be three point or better, or one buck allowed to be above the ears, notice I didn't say anything in measurements.

Talked with a Gamewarden this weekend, his take on the three points on one side, were will the breeding come from when all the 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 pointers are shot, he went on to point out that all these bucks are known to get bigger, spikes are gambling material, they might and they might not get bigger, the ones that do get bigger are once again in the lottery to be shot, leaving the cow horns and 4 pointers for life, to do the breeding, remember he said they're 4-6 years old staying below the radar!

Like Jim said, he pointed out, the herd in florida isn't big enough to do QDMA as it is done in upper states!

This same warden, doesn't like the non-transferable permit system, he's not interested in arresting people for petty issues, this one he feels will be taxing the already short staff of wardens!

jim,

If as we talked before the percentage of hunters getting more then 3 bucks a year is in the single digets, what Good is this going to do for the Herd in reality, we really need to make changes that will amount to something substantial, I don't know of any WMA that has a deer count that Does can't play a part in what we harvest, many Bioligist that I talk to make recomendations but few are given teeth! Having 10,000 Does doesn't mean they will all get breed, FWC needs to appease us grocery getters, can't eat the horns and our youth won't continue to hunt when we narrow the actual harvestible deer down to 2% of the population!

mark

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Replies:

Re: Let's Talk About Bag Limits for Deer -- Tom Laubach, 11/13/07 8:29:25am
- Re: Let's Talk About Bag Limits for Deer -- markm, 11/13/07 2:41:30pm
  - Re: Let's Talk About Bag Limits for Deer -- Jim, 11/14/07 1:30:15pm