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Date Posted: 11/21/07 4:30:20pm
Author: gladeshunter
Subject: Re: Turkey Quota Results
In reply to: Markm 's message, "Re: Turkey Quota Results" on 11/20/07 7:28:37pm

>>>>I didn't get drawn again. I put in for Toso and
>>>>Prairie Lakes. I've put in every year and last year
>>>>was my first spring permit I was awarded for Toso.
>If
>>>>you know allot of folks or are willing to buy
>>multiple
>>>>WMA permits the system works fine. But if you apply
>>>>for only yourself you stand little to no chance of
>>>>scoring a decent spring huntin Florida. The ME
>>>>generation is upon us.
>>>
>>>Come on dude, I put in one time every Year, for me, I
>>>have never put in multible permits, i have been
>>>skunked too, but that will happen no matter what you
>>>do! remember the season isn't here yet, we're still
>>>transferable, so your chance is still good you will
>be
>>>given a hunt! Now, if it were the other way, well
>your
>>>season is over before it got started, except for
>three
>>>lakes and bull creek, I hunted three lakes last year
>>>and took a jake, small one, they cleaned house out
>>>there!
>>>
>>>Mark
>>
>>>> Why would you want to rely on someone else to give
>>you a permit? Seems like a not so sure bet to me. If
>>you truly believe that 40% of all quota permits are
>>not being used you should be lobbying the commission
>>to increase the number of permits on these areas
>>before they go non-transferrable not spend time
>>fighting the inevitable. I am no fan of
>>non-transferrable but when some people are receiving
>>multiple permits and not using or giving them away
>>then I have to look at the alternatives because there
>>are a lot of guys like Keith out there who don't get
>>permits.
>
>
>first things first, what facts do you have about who
>has multible permits not being used?
>
>Go to Toso, buck lake, Seminole ranch and ask to see
>the sign in sheet, this is where i get my info,
>believe it or not!
>
>Why would you not go an petition the commisioners if
>this is what YOU think will help, just what do you
>perceive is the "inevidable"?
>
>You really think going Non-transferable will get you
>or anyone else a permit every year, you have got to be
>kidding me, it ain't going to happen!
>
>What was your reasoning for the first sentence, I'm
>confused on that one, but i do rely on my friends as
>they do me!
>
>I know i have posted this hundreds of times but for
>you I will say it again: I don't like what is
>happening with the present system, "Gaming" isn't the
>word i would use because it puts it in line with the
>Lotto system and it isn't anywhere close to that, but
>for lack of a better word we'll use it!
>
>Now, the present system has many more tweeks the FWC
>can use to help get this "gaming" under some control,
>yet they haven't tried to do so as of yet, WHY? seeing
>as you don't want me or anyone else to really know who
>you are i will give you the benefit of doubt that you
>may know this answer assuming you have been in the
>know, because i have been going to FWC meetings,
>talking to many, many people, yet i haven't gotten an
>answer, but in the back ground they have been
>implimenting some of which I feel will help, yet they
>aren't willing to give it time, again, WHY?
>
>Until the FWC has given all avenues a well deserved
>chance at getting this under some control,"nothing
>will make it anywhere close to what we all want it to
>be", I will continue to fight for the present system!
>I'm sorry you don't agree with my thoughts but you can
>rest assured I will be at every corner making sure
>this system has been tweeked first before we go down
>another unchartered road!
>
>Mark

>>Who I am doesn't matter, what I know does. I am in a position to know what is going on out there, I meet more hunters every day than you will in a year. I hear them talk and I listen. I don't just form opinions because I looked at sign in sheets from 3 mgt. areas.
The first sentence in my reply is pretty self explanatory except to maybe a Democrat. Again why would you want to rely on someone giving you a permit rather than drawing one yourself, pretty simple statement.
As long as a single person can control multiple permits the system will be broke.I know of one individual who has just drawn over 20 turkey permits for various areas. I know for fact that at least half of these will go unused.
I know of 6 Jennings deer permits for the hunt going on now that are not being used.I know of 4 blanding gun permits not being used right now. Dupuis, Hickory Hammock, Allapattah,Hungryland, Half Moon, Flying Eagle,Potts,Big Cypress,Dinner Island all these places and others, too many to list, had permits unused because guys had more than 1 and were holding the others in case they killed a deer and wanted to try for another or they just wanted to keep the pressure down. These are not "no Shows " as you like to put it but rather selfish individuals looking out only for themselves and I guarantee you that there were a bunch of folks who put in for these areas that didn't get drawn and would be pissed if they knew the permits were being wasted..We are losing hunters every year in Florida, we need to get more in the field and I believe that this will do it.I truly believe this.I myself have just drawn 3 permits for turkey hunting. 1 for each of the first 3 weeks of the season but these will all be used, none were in my name so I stand to lose as much as anybody if they go non-transferrable.I am just sick of the selfish folks out there who are only looking out for themselves.
I too will be doing all I can to change the system so obviousy you are not changing my mind and I'm not changing yours so lets leave it at that.

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