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Date Posted: 09:36:19 11/05/11 Sat
Author: A Disappointed Reader
Subject: Musselman: MIA

The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.

I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman is in the middle of the football season but come on! Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out some way for their State College writer to get involved in this story, even if it not writing the main news bar each day.

Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John Block).

I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10 merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the PG?

And, there's the added factor that too many sports writers are like ducks out of water when they find themselves involved in a hard news story. They find it uncomfortable to function outside of their press box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get them involved.

And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his people in the coverage of hard news. In this case, taking the John Block factor into consideration, I don't blame Micco.

To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good career move to cross John Block.

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[> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Chill Pill, 15:13:49 11/05/11 Sat [1]

> I agree this is a huge story, and bad news for the bigwigs at Penn State, but I think your shots are aimed at the wrong guy. Granted Micco is clueless, and never has a plan on how to deal with more than a game story, but Musselman would have this story if he was around. He's done big news stories before, and has the best contacts at Penn State. He isn't one to shy away from a 'bad' news story. But I was told he took advantage of PSUs bye week and isn't even around. Pretty bad timing for the PG, but sometimes beat guys are off and something big happens. That's media. Suck it up and cover the story, PG, instead of leaning on the wires. Last I checked, you have a few reporters on staff to get the job done.


The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in
>ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against
>former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim
>Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and
>the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe
>Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.
>
>I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman
>is in the middle of the football season but come on!
>Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out
>some way for their State College writer to get
>involved in this story, even if it not writing the
>main news bar each day.
>
>Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE
>Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do
>what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going
>to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's
>pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not
>a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John
>Block).
>
>I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran
>reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for
>extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many
>of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10
>merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the PG?
>
>And, there's the added factor that too many sports
>writers are like ducks out of water when they find
>themselves involved in a hard news story. They find
>it uncomfortable to function outside of their press
>box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two
>exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to
>mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get
>them involved.
>
>And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his
>people in the coverage of hard news. In this case,
>taking the John Block factor into consideration, I
>don't blame Micco.
>
>To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman
>will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like
>Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good
>career move to cross John Block.

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[> Re: Musselman: MIA -- A Disappointed Reader, 15:23:15 11/05/11 Sat [1]

To be fair, I made the first post after reading two wire stories in the PG, which came back Saturday afternoon with their own story on this mess. The PG did answer the bell.

Musselman, however, is apparently taking the weekend off like the Penn State football team. An aggressive reporter worth his/her salt would want to get involved in this story. Perhaps Micco and Musselman are mapping their stratgey as I write this. I don't really believe that, but perhaps I'm wrong.



>The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in
>ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against
>former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim
>Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and
>the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe
>Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.
>
>I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman
>is in the middle of the football season but come on!
>Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out
>some way for their State College writer to get
>involved in this story, even if it not writing the
>main news bar each day.
>
>Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE
>Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do
>what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going
>to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's
>pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not
>a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John
>Block).
>
>I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran
>reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for
>extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many
>of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10
>merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the PG?
>
>And, there's the added factor that too many sports
>writers are like ducks out of water when they find
>themselves involved in a hard news story. They find
>it uncomfortable to function outside of their press
>box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two
>exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to
>mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get
>them involved.
>
>And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his
>people in the coverage of hard news. In this case,
>taking the John Block factor into consideration, I
>don't blame Micco.
>
>To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman
>will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like
>Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good
>career move to cross John Block.

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[> [> Musselman: MIA -- Not so fast, 17:01:14 11/05/11 Sat [1]

Musselman had a teaching job at Penn State lined up while he was the beat writer at the same time. The PG, to its credit, shot it down and it made Musselman very angry. He is that clueless that it is a conflict of interest.
My point is that he has some shill in him and I know he wants nothing to do with this story.

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[> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Dan L., 17:56:42 11/05/11 Sat [1]

I don't know who is responsible but somebody had better start working this story. It is a huge national story. If you invest in covering PS sports, you'd better be on top of this story.



>The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in
>ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against
>former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim
>Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and
>the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe
>Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.
>
>I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman
>is in the middle of the football season but come on!
>Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out
>some way for their State College writer to get
>involved in this story, even if it not writing the
>main news bar each day.
>
>Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE
>Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do
>what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going
>to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's
>pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not
>a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John
>Block).
>
>I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran
>reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for
>extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many
>of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10
>merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the PG?
>
>And, there's the added factor that too many sports
>writers are like ducks out of water when they find
>themselves involved in a hard news story. They find
>it uncomfortable to function outside of their press
>box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two
>exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to
>mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get
>them involved.
>
>And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his
>people in the coverage of hard news. In this case,
>taking the John Block factor into consideration, I
>don't blame Micco.
>
>To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman
>will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like
>Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good
>career move to cross John Block.

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[> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Ree-iculous, 19:37:56 11/05/11 Sat [1]


The thing is that the story didn't just happen today. The Patriot News back in May broke the initial story. Musselman should have begun working on it then and these charges coming out should have just been a formality.
He shouldn't be let off the hook.


>I don't know who is responsible but somebody had
>better start working this story. It is a huge national
>story. If you invest in covering PS sports, you'd
>better be on top of this story.
>
>
>
>>The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in
>>ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against
>>former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim
>>Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and
>>the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe
>>Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.
>>
>>I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman
>>is in the middle of the football season but come on!
>>Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out
>>some way for their State College writer to get
>>involved in this story, even if it not writing the
>>main news bar each day.
>>
>>Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE
>>Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do
>>what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going
>>to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's
>>pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not
>>a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John
>>Block).
>>
>>I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran
>>reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for
>>extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many
>>of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10
>>merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the
>PG?
>>
>>And, there's the added factor that too many sports
>>writers are like ducks out of water when they find
>>themselves involved in a hard news story. They find
>>it uncomfortable to function outside of their press
>>box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two
>>exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to
>>mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get
>>them involved.
>>
>>And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his
>>people in the coverage of hard news. In this case,
>>taking the John Block factor into consideration, I
>>don't blame Micco.
>>
>>To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman
>>will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like
>>Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good
>>career move to cross John Block.

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[> Re: Musselman: MIA -- JJ, 18:09:06 11/05/11 Sat [1]

The P-G should put a good news side reporter on this immediately.

>The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in
>ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against
>former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim
>Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and
>the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe
>Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.
>
>I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman
>is in the middle of the football season but come on!
>Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out
>some way for their State College writer to get
>involved in this story, even if it not writing the
>main news bar each day.
>
>Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE
>Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do
>what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going
>to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's
>pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not
>a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John
>Block).
>
>I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran
>reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for
>extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many
>of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10
>merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the PG?
>
>And, there's the added factor that too many sports
>writers are like ducks out of water when they find
>themselves involved in a hard news story. They find
>it uncomfortable to function outside of their press
>box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two
>exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to
>mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get
>them involved.
>
>And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his
>people in the coverage of hard news. In this case,
>taking the John Block factor into consideration, I
>don't blame Micco.
>
>To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman
>will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like
>Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good
>career move to cross John Block.

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[> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Media mayhem, 20:14:43 11/05/11 Sat [1]

> Two things. First this has been being investigated for two years so many reporters and SEs knew Sandusky was being looked at, not just the Patriot News. And my bet is some papers shied away from reporting any more than the fact there was a grand jury looking into claims about Sandusky until charges were actually filed. At least that is what the PG did. They turned Musselman's story back saying it wasn't news until indictments were issued. Kudos to the News for taking it on.

And many newspapers shift these stories to news side reporters once they hit the courts. PG editors decide story assignments so be glad they are taking it off Micco's plate. I am sure PG will have detailed folos tomorrow.


The P-G Sarah put a good news side reporter on this
>immediately.
>
>>The biggest "news" story to come out of Penn State in
>>ages -- involving felony sexual abuse charges against
>>former football coach Jerry Sandusky and AD Tim
>>Curley, who charged with trying to cover it up -- and
>>the PG is using wire stories. Great, great grandpa Joe
>>Paterno is even involved, but has not been charged.
>>
>>I realize the PG "sports" correspondent Ron Musselman
>>is in the middle of the football season but come on!
>>Certainly one the bosses on the Blvd. can figure out
>>some way for their State College writer to get
>>involved in this story, even if it not writing the
>>main news bar each day.
>>
>>Word is Musselman has the ear of John Blockhead and SE
>>Jerry Micco as a result pretty much lets Musselman do
>>what he wants. And, Musselman is obviously not going
>>to get involved in the Sandusky story unless he's
>>pushed. And, you learn quickly at the PG that it's not
>>a wise career move to push any FOJB (friends of John
>>Block).
>>
>>I blame this one mostly on John Block. Many veteran
>>reporters -- like Musselman -- don't go looking for
>>extra work. The kids chase the big stories. Too many
>>of the vets realize the extra work isn't worth the $10
>>merit raise. Do they still give merit raises at the
>PG?
>>
>>And, there's the added factor that too many sports
>>writers are like ducks out of water when they find
>>themselves involved in a hard news story. They find
>>it uncomfortable to function outside of their press
>>box comfort zone. The PG still has one or two
>>exceptions (Bouchette and Dulac immediately come to
>>mind), but it usually takes the SE's direction to get
>>them involved.
>>
>>And, Micco has shown no inclination to involve his
>>people in the coverage of hard news. In this case,
>>taking the John Block factor into consideration, I
>>don't blame Micco.
>>
>>To get some local Sandusky coverage out of Musselman
>>will take Dave Shribman getting involved. And, like
>>Micco I suspect Parkway Dave realizes it's not a good
>>career move to cross John Block.

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[> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- How about, 07:13:52 11/06/11 Sun [1]

Why does the PG even have a beat writer for PSU football? State College isn't exactly a Pittsburgh suburb, it's actually two area codes away. And Pittsburgh not only has their own Division I football program, but one major program that is closer (West Virginia), to say nothing of the mulitple MAC schools that are closer to Pittsburgh than State College is.

Yes, Penn State is a popular team locally. So is Notre Dame. Where is the Notre Dame writer the PG employs? If you're going to cover a team two area codes away, then why not one two states away?

Spare me the talk about more PSU grads in Allegheny County than anywhere else. That suddenly doesn't seem to matter when it comes to basketball coverage or playing Pitt so these grads can go see them play.

Do the Philadelphia papers give PSU such coverage? I know the broadcast media there does not.

Not saying the papers should cover up the Sandusky stuff. But really, wouldn't wire stuff be good enough to cover PSU sports, and the resources spent to cover them be better spent covering the local smaller college football programs with something other than Sunday roundup of their games?

If you're looking at potential hits and reads, I think even people in Pittsburgh don't turn to the PG or Trib for Penn State news. I think they go online to the Centre Daily Times or Patriot, or a Penn State sports website. After all, if I want to read about Ohio State, I don't go to the Plain Dealer or Enquirer.

Pittsburgh should cover Pittsburgh.

Didn't the PG say they couldn't afford to have writers in Washington? So they can't afford to have a writer covering federal issues that impact Pittsburghers but they can have someone write game stories about Nittany Lions football- and only football?

And we wonder why the paper is losing money.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Get over it, 16:52:44 11/06/11 Sun [1]

You're making this far too complicated, what with your ZIP code arguments and such. Whether you care to admit it or not, there is great interest in Penn State football in Allegheny and surrounding counties - and not just among alums. Plenty of people who like college football and have no allegiance otherwise become Penn State fans.

(And, yes, the Philly Inquirer has a PSU beat writer, to answer your question.)

The reason the PSU basketball team doesn't receive equal coverage? Same reason the Pitt women's basketball team receives little or no coverage: Nobody cares.

And arguing that there are as many people interested in Notre Dame football as Penn State football in the P-G circulation area is laughable, although I will give you credit for originality.

I cannot, however, give you credit for suggesting that small-college football deserves more coverage. As novel as an idea as that may be, small colleges don't generate the kind of interest that has them leading the nightly news when their iconic coach is embroiled in a child abuse scandal.

PS - Do not interpret this as a defense of Musselman. He's terrible.

>Why does the PG even have a beat writer for PSU
>football? State College isn't exactly a Pittsburgh
>suburb, it's actually two area codes away. And
>Pittsburgh not only has their own Division I football
>program, but one major program that is closer (West
>Virginia), to say nothing of the mulitple MAC schools
>that are closer to Pittsburgh than State College is.
>
>Yes, Penn State is a popular team locally. So is Notre
>Dame. Where is the Notre Dame writer the PG employs?
>If you're going to cover a team two area codes away,
>then why not one two states away?
>
>Spare me the talk about more PSU grads in Allegheny
>County than anywhere else. That suddenly doesn't seem
>to matter when it comes to basketball coverage or
>playing Pitt so these grads can go see them play.
>
>Do the Philadelphia papers give PSU such coverage? I
>know the broadcast media there does not.
>
>Not saying the papers should cover up the Sandusky
>stuff. But really, wouldn't wire stuff be good enough
>to cover PSU sports, and the resources spent to cover
>them be better spent covering the local smaller
>college football programs with something other than
>Sunday roundup of their games?
>
>If you're looking at potential hits and reads, I think
>even people in Pittsburgh don't turn to the PG or Trib
>for Penn State news. I think they go online to the
>Centre Daily Times or Patriot, or a Penn State sports
>website. After all, if I want to read about Ohio
>State, I don't go to the Plain Dealer or Enquirer.
>
>Pittsburgh should cover Pittsburgh.
>
>Didn't the PG say they couldn't afford to have writers
>in Washington? So they can't afford to have a writer
>covering federal issues that impact Pittsburghers but
>they can have someone write game stories about Nittany
>Lions football- and only football?
>
>And we wonder why the paper is losing money.

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[> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Patriot-News, 13:21:30 11/06/11 Sun [1]

They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long before anyone else.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- And..., 15:19:07 11/06/11 Sun [1]

>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long
>before anyone else.

Even today, they are still breaking details.
They revealed that Mike McQueary was the GA who saw everything.

Funny how the truth is going to take down that whole program.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Disco Frisco, 19:41:11 11/06/11 Sun [1]

The Patriot-News is the best paper in the state.

>>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long
>>before anyone else.
>
>Even today, they are still breaking details.
>They revealed that Mike McQueary was the GA who saw
>everything.
>
>Funny how the truth is going to take down that whole
>program.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Oh please, can we hold the Pultizer talk for now -- A Disappointed Reader, 10:30:53 11/07/11 Mon [1]

History indicates you win a Pulitzer by "breaking" this story. NOT by following up on a legal action and reporting what is already in the grand jury transcript.

The Harrisburg Patriot is leading the way -- so far. And, so far they've done some good but not great (yet) reporting. The PG had it's very,. very predictable "the campus is subdued" story. It's a story that has to be done, but could they put someone on it that can get the man of the street to say something interesting. There was nothing in Michael Sanserino's story.

At this point, the papers' efforts should now be directed towards getting interviews with the witnesses (the coach, the janitor) and most especially some of the victims. And, take a good, long hard look at this organization, Second Mile, that Sandusky used as a front to stalk young boys. The organization said today they knew nothing of Sandusky's alleged criminal actions.

The newspapers should put a full-court press on to find out if this is a true statement.



Makes me wish I was back int he biz. This story is a treasure trove. It's a sick subject, but the reporters and editors have to push aside their emotions and get after the story.


Nevertheless, if you are a newspaper reporter or editor this is a treasure trove of news.

>The Patriot-News is the best paper in the state.
>
>>>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long
>>>before anyone else.
>>
>>Even today, they are still breaking details.
>>They revealed that Mike McQueary was the GA who saw
>>everything.
>>
>>Funny how the truth is going to take down that whole
>>program.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Oh please, can we hold the Pultizer talk for now -- Why hold it?, 18:06:33 11/07/11 Mon [1]

Are you aware they were reporting on this months ago?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Oh please, can we hold the Pultizer talk for now -- PG Vet, 08:53:24 11/08/11 Tue [1]

I'm well aware of this story's history. And, so far nobody has been anything that even remotely deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as Pulitzer Price.

>Are you aware they were reporting on this months ago?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Oh please, can we hold the Pultizer talk for now -- Grantland Ricekrispies, 19:45:13 11/07/11 Mon [1]

Me, I check the unemployment offices to see if JoePa and Spanier are there. That's where this is heading. That pesky: knew or should have known. Sign of the times. The Catholic bishop of Kansas City/St. Joseph is now the first such bishop in America to face criminal charges and it is for the cover up of some priest who was caught with a computer full of child porno. Nobody has any patience for this nonsense anymore.
I don't see how JoPa (shuda done more) or Spanier (under his watch and shuda done more) survive this. They should just resign to get over with with a little grace. Joe say I am old and always intended to retire this year before any of this broke. And Spanier can say I've accomplished what I wanted ... pursue other opportunities ... blah blah blah. And good riddance. The investigation is ongoing so maybe it gets worse for them -- some kind of charges, failure to report a crime to the cops, etc.

>History indicates you win a Pulitzer by "breaking"
>this story. NOT by following up on a legal action and
>reporting what is already in the grand jury
>transcript.
>
>The Harrisburg Patriot is leading the way -- so far.
>And, so far they've done some good but not great (yet)
>reporting. The PG had it's very,. very predictable
>"the campus is subdued" story. It's a story that has
>to be done, but could they put someone on it that can
>get the man of the street to say something
>interesting. There was nothing in Michael Sanserino's
>story.
>
>At this point, the papers' efforts should now be
>directed towards getting interviews with the witnesses
>(the coach, the janitor) and most especially some of
>the victims. And, take a good, long hard look at this
>organization, Second Mile, that Sandusky used as a
>front to stalk young boys. The organization said today
>they knew nothing of Sandusky's alleged criminal
>actions.
>
>The newspapers should put a full-court press on to
>find out if this is a true statement.
>
>
>
>Makes me wish I was back int he biz. This story is a
>treasure trove. It's a sick subject, but the reporters
>and editors have to push aside their emotions and get
>after the story.
>
>
>Nevertheless, if you are a newspaper reporter or
>editor this is a treasure trove of news.
>
>>The Patriot-News is the best paper in the state.
>>
>>>>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this
>long
>>>>before anyone else.
>>>
>>>Even today, they are still breaking details.
>>>They revealed that Mike McQueary was the GA who saw
>>>everything.
>>>
>>>Funny how the truth is going to take down that whole
>>>program.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Interviewing rape victims? -- A kiddie hack, 12:04:06 11/09/11 Wed [1]

I can see trying to interview the janitors or some other players in the case, but the rape victims?

I would have thought that would be off limits for obvious reasons.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Contrasting "man-in-the-street" stories -- A Disappointed Reader, 10:41:12 11/07/11 Mon [1]

Here are the links to the NY Times story

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/sports/ncaafootball/scandal-and-arrests-at-penn-state-leave-shock-and-dismay-in-happy-valley.html

and the Post-Gazette's

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11311/1188147-143.stm

Some may disagree, but I think it's no contest.

>The Patriot-News is the best paper in the state.
>
>>>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long
>>>before anyone else.
>>
>>Even today, they are still breaking details.
>>They revealed that Mike McQueary was the GA who saw
>>everything.
>>
>>Funny how the truth is going to take down that whole
>>program.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Musselman lives!!! -- An Interested Reader, 12:24:57 11/08/11 Tue [1]

Joe Paterno's weekly press conference was canceled by Spanier, so Musselman had some extra time today. He managed to hitch a ride on a triple by-line story on the latest events which was posted at 2:41 p.m.

The biggest news in the story was that Joe Paterno's tenure as head coach will soon be over. This nugget was attributed to The New York Times. The PG did take credit for an unidentifed official saying Joe's support is eroding. The AP,which reported the same thing at 2:42 p.m., went a step further than the PG and said support for Spanier is also shrinking.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBC_PENN_STATE_ABUSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-08-14-42-15


>Here are the links to the NY Times story
>
> >href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/sports/ncaafoot
>ball/scandal-and-arrests-at-penn-state-leave-shock-and-
>dismay-in-happy-valley.html">http://www.nytimes.com/201
>1/11/07/sports/ncaafootball/scandal-and-arrests-at-penn
>-state-leave-shock-and-dismay-in-happy-valley.html
>
>and the Post-Gazette's
>
> >href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11311/1188147-143.
>stm">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11311/1188147-143.s
>tm
>
>Some may disagree, but I think it's no contest.
>
>>The Patriot-News is the best paper in the state.
>>
>>>>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this
>long
>>>>before anyone else.
>>>
>>>Even today, they are still breaking details.
>>>They revealed that Mike McQueary was the GA who saw
>>>everything.
>>>
>>>Funny how the truth is going to take down that whole
>>>program.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Pete, 23:18:32 11/08/11 Tue [1]

>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long
>before anyone else.

Nonsense. They would deserve a Pulitzer if their investigation somehow led to the grand jury action. All they're doing is reporting on the grand jury findings. Huge difference.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Not to gloat, but..., 12:07:34 04/17/12 Tue [1]

>They deserve a Pulitzer for being on top of this long
>before anyone else.


I was right.

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[> Re: Musselman: MIA -- Jack, 10:37:55 11/15/11 Tue [1]

Both papers really dropped the ball on this. Where was the coverage before last week? The story broke in 2009 and then disappeared after a day or two. I think it's fair to question whether the sports editors' connection to the school was an influence.

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