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>I didn't see the reference to the old Press so your >arrows in my direction were deserved. Touche. However, >direct the barbs at me. I'm a big boy and can take the >abuse. > >And while we're dealing in history, I'll go out on the >limb and say the best sports columnist at either the >Press or PG in the last 50 years was Roy McHugh of the >Press. Roy, who also ran the Press Sports Department >for a couple of years in the early 1960s, was in a >league of his own. I suspect Collier and Phil Musick, >both very good sports columnist in their prime, would >agree. > > > >>I know Mommy always tells you that you're special, but >>there was a post after yours making a different point, >>namely that there hasn't been a good sports section >>since the old Press. My point was maybe the old Press >>wasn't quite the superior product that fading memory >>suggests it might be. So, you see, there was a >>discussion beyond your post. It's not always just >>about you. >> >>You have a good day! >> >>>Not sure what any of the previous comments in this >>>thread have to do with, as Collier calls it in his PG >>>Web bio, the long dead Pittsburgh Press. I believe >the >>>discussion was of the current PG and Trib. >>> >>>But thanks for the trip down memory lane Gabby, even >>>if your memory as to best differs from mine. Or, >>>should I say Russ/Sam. >>> >>>>Memories might be better than reality. Press >>>>columnists were Collier and Smizik. Now we have Cook >>>>and Collier. Smizik and Cook are both pot stirrers >>>>with marginal writing skills. Collier is the same as >>>>always, expect now he's lazier. >>>> >>>>Steelers coverage in the Press was by Steve Hubbard. >>>>Bouchette/Dulac are clearly better. >>>> >>>>Molinari did Pens for both. >>>> >>>>Anybody would be better than current P-G Pirates >>>>coverage. I think Hertzel was at the Press, so >that's >>>>a clear win for the Press. >>>> >>>>Mike DeCourcey on college hoops was better than any >>>>P-G combination. >>>> >>>>Press had a much larger staff and had much better >>>>leadership with Russ Brown/Sam Bechtel. Micco/Eyring >>>>aren't even worthy of mention compared to >>>>Brown/Bechtel. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>While I never thought I'd live to see the day the >>>Trib >>>>>would supplant the P-G as the No. 1 sports >>department >>>>>in town, the fact of the matter is Pittsburgh >hasn't >>>>>really had a truly good sports section since the >>>Press >>>>>(no, not the online version!). >>>>> >>>>>>Can someone explain what's going on with Micco's >>>>>>approach to the Pitt coaching story? >>>>>> >>>>>>The Trib double-teams the story and shows some >good >>>>>>journalistic hustle by getting comment by one of >>the >>>>>>candidates, Luke Fickell, while he's a recruiting >>>>trip >>>>>>to Hersey. >>>>>> >>>>>>In those comments, Fickell, the Ohio State coach >>for >>>>>>one year, reveals that he was contacted by Pitt >>>>>>through mutual acquaintances. But, he says he has >>>NOT >>>>>>yet interviewed, according to Fickell. >>>>>> >>>>>>The PG? Again, what are they thinking on the >Blvd.? >>>>>>Certainly this is the biggest story of the year on >>>>the >>>>>>Pitt football beat. And PG beat writer, like >>>>Musselman >>>>>>when the Penn State football story broke, is MIA. >>>>>> >>>>>>I log into the PG Web site this morning only to >see >>>>>>the same four-paragraph story by Zeise that was >>>>posted >>>>>>yesterday. Perhaps they added the name of a third >>>>>>coaching candidate, but that's it. >>>>>> >>>>>>In this embarrassing coverage, Zeise reports that >>>>>>Fickell has been interviewed. Now Fickell could >>have >>>>>>been hedging by telling the Trib that there has >not >>>>>>been an interview, but what does he have to lose >by >>>>>>not telling the truth. He told the Trib he was >>>>>>interested in the Pitt job, and his boss, Urban >>>>Meyer, >>>>>>certainly must know of his interest since he and >>>>>>Fickell were together in Hersey looking at a >5-star >>>>>>recruit play in the PIAA Class AAA championship >>>game. >>>>>> >>>>>>I've always liked Paul Zeise's hustle -- in the >>>past. >>>>>>But, I don't know what to make of his current >>>effort, >>>>>>or lack thereof. >>>>>> >>>>>>The Trib has often kicked the PG's behind in the >>>>>>coverage of news. That's been going on for a few >>>>years >>>>>>now. But, the PG sports has generally more than >>held >>>>>>it's own against the Trib. But, the PG effort on >>the >>>>>>Pitt story is pathetic. >>>>>> >>>>>>I should add that I'm basing my comments on >reading >>>>>>the two paper's Web sites. Perhaps there's more in >>>>>>what the PG is offering at the newstand. But, >based >>>>on >>>>>>what's I'm reading on the Net, I'm not going to >>>spend >>>>>>75 cents to find out. >>>>>> >>>>>>One other question, how does Micco keep his job? >>>>>> >>>>>>>P-G's disjointed approach reflects the lack of >>>>>>>leadership. The Micco/Eyring team should be fired >>>>and >>>>>>>replaced by someone with organizational skills; >>>>>>>creativity and a work ethic that extends beyond >>>>>>>self-promotion via TV and online chats. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's not really news anymore, but I though the >>>Trib >>>>>>>>did a much better job than the PG with the Todd >>>>>>>>Graham-goes-to-Arizona State story. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Both papers had a good main bar and the >>obligatory >>>>>>>>column (Rossi vs. Zeise and Starkey vs. >Collier), >>>>>but >>>>>>>>the Trib went the extra mile (PG Sports hasn't >>>done >>>>>>>>that in a looooong time) with a timeline, >>reaction >>>>>>>>from the usual Pitt suspects and Joe Rutter >>>>compiled >>>>>>>>an interesting list of some of Graham's quotes >>>>about >>>>>>>>loyality, honesty, etc. while at Pitt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>None of these extras are great ideas. Newspapers >>>>>have >>>>>>>>been doing timelines, reax and quote >compilations >>>>>>>>forever. But, the suddeness of Graham's >departure >>>>>>made >>>>>>>>the timeline and Graham quotes particularly >>>>>>effective. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I didn't think the PG necessarily did a bad job, >>>>but >>>>>>I >>>>>>>>found myself wanting more. But, I have come to >>>>>>realize >>>>>>>>that PG Sports doesn't believe in giving its >>>>readers >>>>>>>>much beyond the minimum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But, this story required some extra effort and >>you >>>>>>>>rarely see that in the PG beyond the overkill of >>>>>>>>Steelers coverage.

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