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Date Posted: 00:41:58 10/28/16 Fri
Author: Jacob
Subject: Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again)
In reply to: John Perrotto 's message, "Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again)" on 16:21:52 10/26/16 Wed

I know bloggers who work for free who are always out there trying to break stories. Pay level shouldn't matter if you have passion and pride in what you are writing.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Work Makes You Free, 01:38:24 10/28/16 Fri [1]

Passion and pride don't pay the bills. And don't say that motivation and drive are unaffected when contracts or management orders result in arbitrary pay cuts or rolling layoffs.

Decent pay IS a motivational force for anyone in any business to be happy and productive. And vice versa.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- CornFused, 10:39:47 10/28/16 Fri [1]

I'd imagine these blogger buddies of yours have an additional source of income. If it's not a hobby, you shouldn't be giving your work away for less than fair market pay.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Jacob, 01:30:04 10/29/16 Sat [1]

Some people bust their butts to get their names out there.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Say what?, 08:51:47 10/29/16 Sat [1]

You're not making any sense.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Nothing Gained, Nothing Should Be Ventured, 16:16:39 10/29/16 Sat [1]

There seems to be some confusion here and an implication that he was supposed to be donating his talents to the BCT like a college kid taking an unpaid internship.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Jakesplainer, 01:10:02 10/30/16 Sun [1]

He wants to cover the major leagues without having paid his dues. He wants to go straight from college to the bigs without ever having covered a high school game or actually learned the business. It's what kids do these days. They steal other people's work, re-write it, give it to a blog factory for free and "get their name out there." It's hard work, man.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Nothing Gained, Nothing Should Be Ventured, 13:14:35 10/30/16 Sun [1]

Isn't the subject here a 30-some-year professional, not a recent college grad?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Perrotto quits the BCT (again) -- Jacob's Ladder, 06:28:16 10/31/16 Mon [1]

Yes, but Jacob's statements leave doubts he's astute enough to see that.

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[> [> [> [> Question for Jacob -- The Real World, 20:51:51 10/28/16 Fri [1]

Jacob, can you tell us how you pay YOUR bills and why bloggers should toil for nothing and give their work away out of some misbegotten sense of idealism or charity?

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Question for Jacob -- Former DK subscriber, 09:12:34 10/29/16 Sat [1]

Bloggers are people who just want internet fame because they think they look important to their friends by their clicks and twitter followers.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Question for Jacob -- The truth, 16:45:48 10/29/16 Sat [1]

Some bloggers are paid. Some bloggers attached to legit journalism entities are for real. But a lot of people in legit journalism are so fearful of their job security they hate ALL bloggers. Some of these people would do better to work harder themselves.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Question for Jacob -- Jacob, 01:31:44 10/30/16 Sun [1]

There's only so many paying jobs in newspapers and they are slowly dying by the day (see the Trib). Some people don't land that paying writing job out of college and so they write on their own until they make it full time.

Some papers underpay for 30 years and treat their writers like crap (John Perrotto's thoughts) to the point where he doesn't work as hard to scoop things. Yet in the journalism world he'd still be more respected than those "idiot bloggers" right?

The only difference between bloggers and established media is access and some established media don't do much with that access to begin with.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Question for Jacob -- John Perrotto (Perrotto), 15:34:23 10/30/16 Sun [1]

I have to laugh at this. I don't work hard? I'm lucky if I have five full days off the entire year. Give me your real name and number instead of hiding behind an alias. I'll call you and explain exactly how the real world is.

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