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Subject: Skype on PDAs


Author:
Neil (Palm247)
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Date Posted: 05/01/05 Sun

I saw this on engadget. It is of interest as Skype have said they will not be releasing a version for Palm OS. It seems there are also problems with PPC too. "They say it’s because the “CPU power and network connectivity of currently available phones” simply aren’t sufficient for making Skype voice calls". If PPC are not powerful enough yet then we'll be waiting a long time before we get Skype on the Palm. "

Just as a bit of fine-tuning, Skype has worked on the WindowsMobile platform for some time now, with the requirements of a 400mhz + CPU, and integrated wifi. However, I've had conversations with WM users connecting over a BT / LAN connection (not BT / GPRS!), where call quality was absolutely fine. The current issues seem to be relating to Smartphones, where VoIP is not working, but IM is possible.

It's a shame that there is little interest in developing a PalmOS version from Skype's point of view, as I would imagine that a fair few PalmOS users would want to take advantage is such software was available. The PalmOS Wifi card is gradually working in increasing numbers of machines, but, it is possible that a BT / LAN connection may suffice. The only real issue is that, if you are in range of a BT connection to a PC (max 100m with a Class 1 BT adapter), for the most part, it would be just as easy to use the PC itself. Whilst Bluetooth access points exist, they are considerably rarer than a wireless access point if you are out and about, leaving wifi as the only practical mobile option.

It'll be interesting to see if, (rather than "how") this develops for PalmOS...

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[> Subject: Re: Skype on PDAs


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Masset
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Date Posted: 05/01/05 Sun

When I have used Skype on a PPC it has worked although quality is not outstanding but it is sufficient. I believe the processing power on a Palm is well below par and would make it impossible to use on a Palm device. The likes of Skype is certainly the way forward and is yet again another area where Palm fails compared to its Pocket PC counterparts. You raised important good issues in your observation Neil.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Skype on PDAs


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Neil (Palm247)
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Date Posted: 05/01/05 Sun

I am not sure why the processing power on the PalmOS is such a problem, really- I haven't used my T3 for some time now, but, I believe that that has a 400mhz processor, which meets the minimum currently recommended / required by Skype. Perhaps the PalmOS uses the processor in a different manner (I am not programming expert), but, on numbers alone, the PalmOS should not lose out (although, I guess we are actually talking hardware, rather than the OS itself here).

Another area which might need addressing on the PalmOS is the issue of audio-in/out. High-end business machines used to have voice recorders (T5 excepted), which incorporated a built-in microphone. However, as far as I know, it has not been possible to have audio going into the microphone, as well as audio coming out, via the speakers. (Obviously, this is not the case with the Treo, but I would imagine that this employs a completely different architecture to cope with voice.) If this is true, then it would cause signficant problems with Skype- and resolving this may be more work that it would be reasonable to expect for a piece of freeware. If someone were able to to develop a Bluetooth headset profile for non-smartphone devices, then this could help prevent the problem, but, on my T3 at least, running Bluetooth was an excellent way of draining the battery in short order.

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Masset
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Date Posted: 05/01/05 Sun

Well I hope the major issues can be ironed out and Skype will look to include Palm OS.

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[> Subject: Re: Skype on PDAs


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Gabriel
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Date Posted: 05/01/05 Sun

I have seen this excuse for not having a Palm OS client as well. I find this to be completely untrue! The PalmOne Treo has the same Intel Xscale processor as many Pocket PC devices!

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[> Subject: Re: Skype on PDAs


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toto
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Date Posted: 05/01/05 Sun

Palm OS has very limited number of sockets (2 or 3). that's why there is no way on earth Skype will ever work on it. maybe in v6

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[> Subject: Re: Skype on PDAs


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Demens
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Date Posted: 05/03/05 Tue

Well, even the chat option would be fine or to give some developers (like verichat-devs) a possibility to add a Skype-chat into their IM programs.

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Neil (Palm247)
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Date Posted: 05/03/05 Tue

give some developers (like verichat-devs) a possibility to add a Skype-chat into their IM programs.


I'll be honest- I can't see this latter part happening- I'd be hugely surprised if I did. Skype runs over a proprietary format, which is kept very close to the developers of Skype- I can't see them opening this up to anyone else anytime soon, really.

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