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Date Posted: 18:41:26 05/20/15 Wed
Author: Marius de Jess (Calm)
Subject: Addressing both demons proponents and their opponents

[ This text addressed to demons proponents. ]

You want to prove that demons have objective existence, but your opponents want to convince you that demons do not exist.

What both sides should do is to work as to concur on what are demons.

Toward this end, your side must present phenomena which are the effects caused by demons, and your opponents will seek to prove that these phenomena can be explained in other ways without bringing in demons.

When both sides have come to concur on the phenomena that cannot be explained away by your opponents with known causes from say science or human trickery, then they your opponents have to admit and thus concur with you on at least the concept of what are demons, namely, demons are entities to which demons-advocates like Christian exorcists attribute phenomena of which these entities are the causes, at least indirectly by their use a human being.

Now, as regards the work of exorcists or anyone claiming to and acting as an exorcist, the law must require the presence of a doctor in medicine, to prevent the exorcist from killing a demon possessed person, even though the possessed person wants the ministration of the exorcist, or to prevent the exorcist from inflicting irreversible injuries on the demon possessed person.

Then also the law will require first and foremost that the possessed person be isolated as to be all alone without the presence of other humans, but be provided with foods and liquids and medical attention by medical personnel, for a period to be determined by medical workers like psychiatrists, for observation to see whether the possessed person will come out of his condition during the period of isolation -- that will lead him to discontinue dramatizing his condition.

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