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Sal
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Date Posted: Wed, Nov 05 2008, 8:22:05
In reply to: unknown mafioso 's message, "us election 2008" on Wed, Nov 05 2008, 6:52:19

Good for you T...I too go positive in these times..it is as it is an what it is he is now pres so in favor of love of country I'll give it the benefit of doubt...but my WARNING would be this...one must be carefull of how high one chooses to sit or how lofty it is that one puts one on a petistal cause the FALL FROM GRACE can be a very very hard landing.

THe future--buy alot of guns cause in about 3 years guns prices will be so high so to keep them out of the hands of Obamas so called lower class they wont be able to afford them..a gun normally 200 bucks will jump to 500.00 bucks and TAXED 2 to 300 more dollars aka a gun worth 5 costing you 800 including tax...WISEGUY LOOPHOLE---> buy all the used good guns now, start a pawn shop or sumethin and sell the fuck out of em 2 or 3 years from now

Salutes

Lucky

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[> [> Subject: Re: us election 2008 I GOT THAT GUN......HAHAHAHA


Author:
G from Downunder
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Date Posted: Wed, Nov 05 2008, 9:01:03

GOT HEAPS OF GUNS, BLOODY HEAPS MATE.
UN CONTROL OF SMALL ARMS? DETAILED MANY TIMES TO SK.
IF YOU WANT UPDATES WITHIN THE WEEK LET ME KNOW.

GUNS YES STOCK 1000'S OF THEM, BUT DON'T FORGET TO STOCK UP .22,.25,.32, BECAUSE THE ISSUE WILL BE THAT ANYTHING UNDER 100MM BARREL LENGTH WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED UNDER A POSSIBLE COLLECTOR LICENCE AND ONLY REALLY LARGE GUNS TO BE ALLOWED FOR TARGET SHOOTING ONLY UNDER SERIOUSLY STRICK LAWS.
Carmelo, once the law is passed BULLETS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE PURCHASED ONCE STOCK ON HAND DRIES UP IN GUN STORES BECAUSE ALL THESE ESSPECIALLY .25 AND .32 WILL NOT BE MANUFACTURED ANY MORE AND ALSO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE IMPORTED.

LISTEN, IT'S HAPPENED HERE.
EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN STILL PURCHASE POCKET PISTOLS IN THESE CAL'S FOR HISTORIAL AND OR THEMATIC OR INVESTMENT BUT A CONDITION IS YOU CAN NOT FIRE THEM.
HAHAHAHAHA- IF YOU GOT A GUN YOU NEED THE LEAD, THAT'S WHAT I SAY, SO THE LEAD WILL BE WORTH MORE THAN THE GUN.

.22'S WILL BE NEEDED FOR RIFLES SO NO THREAT.

BULLETS IN MELBOURNE ARE SELLING FOR $200.00 A PACKET ON THE BLACK AS YOU READ IN THE PAPERS ...........

CIAO
GIANNI
WHO ENJOYS THE REAL PASSION.

YES WE CAN PURCHSE SEECAMPS TO CHAMBER .38
ALL CLUB SHOOTS WILL NEED TO REGISTER ALL CALS SHOT, IF THERE ISN'T A LEGIT SHOOT FOR A CALIBER THEN IT'S GONE GONE GONE FOR EVER IN THE NATIONS THAT GO THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE UN CONROL OF SMALL ARMS......

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[> [> Subject: Fears of a Dem crackdown lead to boom in gun sale


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Lucky
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Date Posted: Fri, Nov 07 2008, 16:12:36

Fears of a Dem crackdown lead to boom in gun sales


By DENA POTTER – 38 mins ago


MIDLOTHIAN, Va. – When 10-year-old Austin Smith heard Barack Obama had been elected president, he had one question: Does this mean I won't get a new gun for Christmas?

That brought his mother, the camouflage-clad Rachel Smith, to Bob Moates Sports Shop on Thursday, where she was picking out that special 20-gauge shotgun — one of at least five weapons she plans to buy before Obama takes office in January.

Like Smith, gun enthusiasts nationwide are stocking up on firearms out of fears that the combination of an Obama administration and a Democrat-dominated Congress will result in tough new gun laws.

"I think they're going to really try to crack down on guns and make it harder for people to try to purchase them," said Smith, 32, who taught all five of her children — ages 4 to 10 — to shoot because the family relies on game for food.

Last month, as an Obama win looked increasingly inevitable, there were more than 108,000 more background checks for gun purchases than in October 2007, a 15 percent increase. And they were up about 8 percent for the year as of Oct. 26, according to the FBI.

No data was available for gun purchases this week, but gun shops from suburban Virginia to the Rockies report record sales since Tuesday's election.

"They're scared to death of losing their rights," said David Hancock, manager of Bob Moates, where sales have nearly doubled in the past week and are up 15 percent for the year. On Election Day, salespeople were called in on their day off because of the crowd.

Obama has said he respects Americans' Second Amendment right to bear arms, but that he favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault and concealed weapons.

As a U.S. Senator, Obama voted to leave gun-makers and dealers open to lawsuits; and as an Illinois state legislator, he supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on all firearms.

During an October appearance in Ohio, Obama sought to reassure gun owners. "I will not take your shotgun away," he said. "I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."

Gun advocates take some solace in the current makeup of the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled 5-4 this summer to strike down the District of Columbia's 32-year ban on handguns. For now, gun rights supporters hold a narrow edge on the court, but Obama could appoint justices who would swing it the other way.

Franklin Gun Shop outside Nashville, Tenn., sold more than 70 guns on Tuesday, making it the biggest sales day since the shop opened eight years ago. Guns & Gear in Cheyenne, Wyo., also set a one-day sales record on Tuesday, only to break that mark on Wednesday.

Stewart Wallin, owner of Get Some Guns in the Salt Lake City suburb of Murray, Utah, said he sold nine assault weapons the day after Obama was elected. That same day, the gun store Cheaper Than Dirt! in Fort Worth, Texas, sold $101,000 worth of merchandise, shattering its single-day sales record, store owner DeWayne Irwin said.

One Georgia gun shop advertised an "Obama sale" on an outdoor sign, but the owner took it down after people complained that the shop appeared to be issuing a call to violence against the country's first black leader.

The president of a Montana gun manufacturer stepped down last month after word that he supported Obama led to calls for a boycott of the company.

While Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, attributes some of the sales boom to the tanking economy, he thinks the Democratic sweep is the top reason why guns are suddenly a hot commodity.

"I don't think he'll be able to stand up to that anti-Second Amendment wing of the Democratic party that's just been spoiling for chance to ban America's guns," LaPierre said of Obama.

During the campaign, the NRA warned that Obama would be the "most antigun president in American history." And while Vice President-elect Joe Biden owns shotguns, he has supported a ban on assault weapons and has said private sellers at gun shows should be required to perform background checks.

But Mark Tushnet, a Harvard Law School professor who has written a book about the gun debate, said new firearms regulations will be a low priority for an Obama administration and Democratic Congress facing a global economic crisis and two wars.

"Maybe the gun-show loophole will be closed, but not much else," he said in an e-mail. "I'd be surprised, for example, if Congress enacted a new assault gun ban."

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said his organization will continue to press for what he calls "sensible" restrictions — background checks at gun shows, a ban on military-style assault weapons and cracking down on illegal gun trade. He believes he has the backing of the new administration on those issues, but any fears of a broader crackdown are unfounded.

"The one thing that they agree strongly with us on is that it's too easy for dangerous people to get guns in this country," Helmke said. "I guess if you're a dangerous person you might want to run out there and buy some more, but otherwise you should be OK."

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Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington, Angela K. Brown in Fort Worth, Texas, Kate Brumback in Marietta, Ga., Joe Edwards in Nashville, Tenn., Don Mitchell in Denver, Matt Joyce in Cheyenne, Wyo., and Paul Foy in Salt Lake City contributed to this report.

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[> [> [> Subject: LINK AND LEARN MY FRIENDSObama would be “the most anti-gun President in American history”.


Author:
G from Downunder '66 Rocker......
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Date Posted: Sun, Nov 09 2008, 5:04:55

CARMELO CARMELO, GET YOUR GUNS AND STOCK UP NOW.......


http://www.armscontrol.org/

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS
Obama Responds to Arms Control Today Survey
September 24, 2008
http://www.armscontrol.org/system/files/20080924_ACT_PresidentialQA_Obama_Sept08.pdf
right click and save.

http://www.un.org/disarmament/
Programme of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons
in All Its Aspects
(UN Document A/CONF.192/15)

http://disarmament.un.org/cab/poa.html

http://www.iansa.org/un/index.htm

http://www.iansa.org/
The election of Barack Obama as US President should improve the political environment for progress on gun violence prevention and reducing US arms exports, according to IANSA members in the USA.

Frida Berrigan of the Arms and Security Initiative pointed to several signs that the change of government could mean arms exports come under greater scrutiny. For example, Senator Obama voted for a de facto one year ban on US exports of cluster bombs, and during the election campaign he expressed openness to signing the Convention on Cluster Munitions.

Joseph Biden, who will be the Vice-President, has frequently criticised US arms exports. He referred to a transfer of F-16 fighter planes to Pakistan as “dangerously misguided” and “reckless” in January 2008.

US arms exports have rocketed under the Bush administration, with US weapons sales to foreign countries in 2008 on track to be 45% higher than in 2007. Weapons worth $34 billion are currently on offer to Iraq, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and other countries.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said the election of Obama-Biden "was a decisive victory for common sense gun laws", since Senator Obama has consistently supported sensible gun laws in both the US and Illinois State Senates. Senator Biden has also been a leader for strong gun laws throughout his political career.

The election results also constitute a defeat for the leadership of the National Rifle Association, which said it spent more than $10 million to tell voters that Barack Obama would be “the most anti-gun President in American history”.


http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5itj-7QafJFnX0b6jMC1bVcEU-DAg

Tutu urges support for UN small arms control treaty
Oct 21, 2008

NEW YORK (AFP) — South Africa's retired Archbishop Desmond Tutu on Tuesday appealed to UN member states to "end the slaughter" resulting from the uncontrolled small arms trade by backing a global arms trade treaty.

In a message delivered to all 192 missions to the United Nations here, he pointed out that "in the last two years almost three quarters of a million people have died as a result of armed violence.

"You can and must act to control the deadly trade in weapons that is behind these deaths. There can be no further delay ... It is time to end the slaughter," he added.

Tutu's appeal came as the UN disarmament committee is set to vote on an Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) resolution next week. Some 85 countries are co-sponsoring the text.

"There are some states which are opposed to a Treaty. They will seek to block, derail, and delay any further progress. They will seek to convince you this treaty is not required or cannot work," Tutu said in his message.

"They must not be allowed to succeed, the human cost is too high," he said.

Tutu's message was delivered by activists of the Control Arms campaign, which is pushing for a strong treaty to stop the sales of small arms around the world.

The campaign was launched five years ago by Amnesty International, Oxfam International and the International Action Network on Small Arms.

In December 2006, the UN General Assembly overwhelmingly adopted a resolution launching a process for a treaty to prevent arms transfers that fuel conflicts and serious human rights violations around the world.

Only the United States voted against, while 24 governments abstained.

That resolution asked then-UN secretary general Kofi Annan to seek the views of member states "on the feasibility, scope and draft parameters for a comprehensive, legally binding instrument establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms."

http://www.controlarms.org/en



IT WILL OPEN PANDORA'S BOX and LEAVE "HOPE" inside when closed.
BUT SHOULD "HOPE" WHICH WAS ENTRAPPED IN THE PANDORA'S BOX NOW BE REALSED, IS THIS WHY HELL IS ON EARTH, AND ALL THE HOPE WE WISH FOR WILL ALWAYS STAY ENTRAPPED??

http://www.jpfo.org/
even the JEWS SET UP THEIR OWN WEBSITE ON THE PRESEVATION OF ARMS.
HAHAHAHAH.......HAHAHAHAHHAHA,,,,,,,

CIAO
GIANNI,
YOU WANT MORE AMMO GUYS PLEASE TEASE ME AND THERE WILL BE MORE.......I HAVE 15 UNITS DESTROYED AND 7 KEPT BY THE LOCAL STATE GOVERNMENT ....WHY.....BECAUSE THEY DID HAVE THESE GUNS ON THEIR BOOKS......BACK IN 2002.
NEW LICENCES NOW ALLOW COLLECTORS TO KEEP WHAT EVER WE WANT. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM AHHAHAHAHAHAH
LOBBY,LOBBY,LOBBY, UNDERSTAND .
NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS........NEVER...........

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[> [> [> [> Subject: "IF YOU WON'T DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS, DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN YOU LOSE THEM"


Author:
G from Downunder '66 Rocker......
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Date Posted: Sun, Nov 09 2008, 5:25:04


"IF YOU WON'T DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS, DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN YOU LOSE THEM"

POSTER TO PRINT AND DISTRIBUTE
http://www.jpfo.org/pdf/unclesamcolor.pdf
RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE.


This guide has been broken down into 10 PDF segments. You can either click the links below to open the pages in your web browser, or right-click and "Save Target" to save the files to your computer's hard drive.
http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/boltaction.htm
right click and save to hard drive.
this is fucking brilliant - 10 parts ......
save em all save this please.........
PART I (217KB) PART II (259KB)
PART III (500KB) PART IV (665KB)
PART V (1.1MB) PART VI (1.0MB)
PART VII (1.1MB) PART VIII (1.5MB)
PART IX (1.1MB) PART X (700KB)

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: The Magic Badge (Feb/Mar 2007, PDF) must read to all here and distribute to all mates


Author:
G from Downunder '66 Rocker......
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Date Posted: Sun, Nov 09 2008, 5:35:22

http://www.jpfo.org/pdf/ccm200703.pdf
wow, i wished i lived over there.
THE MAGIC BADGE.


BLOODY HECK READ THIS ONE.
Manassas City Police
Harass Individuals Open Carrying at Restaurant
http://www.vcdl.org/Tonys/mcpd.html


So the UN Doesn't Want Your Guns?
http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/undisarm.htm

Safe and Efficient Small Arms Collection and Destruction Programmes: A Proposal for Practical Technical Measures
Prepared for the 2001 UN Small Arms Conference, this paper describes in detail a plan to eliminate small arms from civilians. Read more RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE BELOW/
http://www.jpfo.org/pdf/proposaldestruction.pdf

THIS FILE WAS DESIGNED BY THE UN TO TEACH ALL COUNTIES ON THE METHOD OF DESTRUCTION OF SMALL ARS ONCE THE GOVERNMENTS HAVE FOUNS A WAY TO TAKE THEM OFF YOUR HANDS.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN DOWNUNDER....
WAKE UP AND DON'T LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU IN THE USA....

CIAO
GIANNI

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