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A LIGHT DELIGHT!
ANOTHER SIDE OF THE GOD'S WORD OF TRUTH AWAY FROM MAJOR CONTROVERSIES IS DIPLAYING THE TYPICAL OUTWARD FORM OF THE GOSPEL ! THIS BOARD IS A REST FROM THE MAJOR TOPICS AND WILL CONTAIN SUBJECTS THAT READERS BASICALLY ALREADY KNOW (OR NEED TO KNOW) TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, THIS BOARD WILL FELLOWSHIP BASIC STYLE! IT IS A REST FROM THE HEAVY CONTROVERSIES, EMBRACING THE OUTWARD FORM OF THE GOSPEL. THE OUTWARD FORM OF THE GOSPEL IS THE FOUNDATION OF KNOWING THE POWER OF THE LORD GOD. TOPICS LISTYED HERE IS A BREATHER FROM HEAVY HITTING DISCUSSIONS WHILE INVITING SERENE, COMFORTING SUBJECTS. ARE YOU DEPRESSED, GREIVING, FEARFUL, SUICIDAL, ETC? IN ORDER TO BE LIFTED FROM THE BONDAGES OF FALSE TEACHINGS AND DESTRUCTIVE BELIEFS, TAKES KNOWING THE FOUNDATION OF THE GOSPEL WHICH IS FAITH THROUGH JESUS CHRIST AS HE, GOD ALMIGHTY, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, CONSTANTLY REVEAL THEIR UNCONDITIONAL LOVE FOR US - ETERNALLY! (ROMANS 8) email: ladyex19@hotmail.com GOD'S WORD OF TRUTH!

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Paul’s Gospel! -- Anonymous, 17:11:50 02/02/02 Sat

Paul’s Gospel!
Faith Alone in Christ Alone


There are two great revelations, or unfolders of Divine Truth in the Bible – Moses in the Old Testament, and Paul in the New.

Someone may say, “Is not Christ the Great Teacher?” In a sense this is true; but in a real sense Christ is the Person taught about, rather than teaching, in the Gospels. The law an the prophets pointed forward to Christ; the Epistles point back to Him; ant the Book of Revelation points to His second coming, and those things connected with it. The Four Gospels tell the story how He was revealed to man, and rejected by them. Christ, Himself, therefore is the theme of the Bible. Moses in the Law reveals God’s holiness, and thus by means of the Law reveals human sin, and the utter hopelessness and helplessness of man. Paul in his great Epistles reveals Christ as our Righteousness, Sanctification, Redemption, and All in All.

The twelve Apostles (Matthias by Divine appointment taking the place of Judas) were to be the “witnesses” (Acts 1:22) of Christ’s resurrection – that is of the fact of it. They were not to unfold fully the doctrine of it, as Paul was. The twelve were with Jesus personally, and knew Him as a man; and when He died they saw it. When He was buried, they knew it personally, as eye-witnesses. And when He was raised, they found it out experimentally, visiting His actual tomb, and seeing that it was empty. They were also to see and handle the physical, risen body of our Lord. And it was with them that our Lord abode on earth forty days after His resurrection, “showing Himself alive (physically, in a body) by many infallible proofs” (Acts 1:3).


*Christ, when on earth, did not “start” anything. He said, in Matt. 16:18: “I will build My Church;” but He had not yet built it. He was a “Minister of the circumcision,” (Rom. 15:8; Matt. 15:24); and though He taught, it was to discover to men their helplessness, and lead them to rely on Him. Finally, all failed in Gethsemane. Then came the Cross and the end of all things human. Then the resurrection, and a new beginning.


This great fact--that is, that the Person that the Jews themselves well knew they had crucified and buried, was risen from the dead and ascended to heaven-this tremendous fact the twelve Apostles witnessed to Israel at Jerusalem, and everywhere else. Thus we find the opening chapters of the Book of Acts filled with the single testimony that Jesus of Nazareth had risen from the dead; and that remission of sins was through Him.

But unto none of these twelve Apostles did God reveal the great body of doctrine for this age. Just as God chose Moses to be the revelator to Israel of the Ten Commandments, and all connected with the Law dispensation; so God chose Saul of Tarsus to be the revelator and unfolder of those mighty truths connected with our Lord’s burial, and resurrection, and His ascended Person. And all the “mysteries” or “secrets” revealed to God’s people in this dispensation by the Holy Ghost are revealed by Paul. Finally, Paul is the unfolder of that great company of God’s elect, called the Church, the Body of Christ, the individuals of which body are called members of the Body of Christ-members of Christ Himself.

No other Apostle speaks of these things. Peter himself had to learn them from Paul (II Peter 3: 15-16). When Paul finishes his thirteen great Epistles (Romans to Philemon) those which belong to the Church, God indeed permits him to give a message to the Hebrews. This is not part of the Church’s doctrine, but is simply explaining to Hebrew Christians the character, the real application, the typical meaning, of their Levitical system-that is, how it pointed forward to Christ.

James addresses his Epistle to “the twelve tribes”-that is, his Epistle has special reference to the Jewish Christians in the early days, and to such throughout the dispensation, for that matter. Peter writes to “the strangers who are sojourners of the Dispersion,” that is, to the dispersed Jews who acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah.

In Galatians the second chapter we are distinctly told by Paul, that James, Cephas and John were to go to the circumcision, while Paul tells us that his message was to the Gentiles. Since then the testimony by the Jewish Apostles to the Jews was duly given, there is now no distinction between Jews and Gentiles; and Paul’s message holds good for the world, both Jews and Gentiles. So that we find Paul finally sets the Jewish nation aside in the last chapter of the Book of Acts, and opens his great Epistle to the Gentile center of the world with the statement that “there is no difference” between men; for “all have sinned;” and that there is again “no difference,” for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved;” since the same Lord is “Lord of all” (Rom. 3:22-23 and Rom. 10:12)

God does as He pleases, and it pleased Him to choose-first to save people in this dispensation through “the foolishness of preaching,” or the “preached thing”-that is, through the message about the Cross, and what was done there (See I Cor. 1:21). And second, it pleased Him to choose Paul to be the great proclaimer and revealer of just what the Gospel is for this dispensation

You can judge any man’s preaching or teaching by this rule-Is he Pauline? Does his doctrine start and finish according to those statements of Christian doctrine uttered by the Apostle Paul?

No matter how wonderful a man may seem in his gifts and apparent consecration-if his Gospel is not Pauline, it is not the Gospel; and we might as well get our minds settled at once as to that. Paul calls down the anathema-that is the curse of God Himself-upon anyone who preaches any other Gospel than that which he declared (Gal. 1).

Not for one moment are we to believe that James, Peter and John were at variance with Paul-not in the least. They were given certain things by the Spirit, to say to certain classes of people. They do not conflict with Paul. And their words are included in the statement that “All Scripture is profitable” (II Timothy 3:16).

But, nevertheless, Paul is the declarer and revealer of the Gospel to us. Take Romans to Philemon out of the Bible and you are bereft of Christine doctrine. For instance, if you were to take Paul’s Epistles out of the Bible, you cannot find anything about the Church, the Body of Christ, for no other Apostle mentions the Body of Christ. You cannot find one of the great mysteries, such as the Rapture of the Church (I Thes. 4,I Cor. 15) or the mystery of the present hardening of Israel (Romans 11). No other Apostle speaks of any of those mysteries. Paul alone reveals them-the great doctrines such as Justification, Redemption, Sanctification. And what is perhaps the most tremendous fact of every real Christian life, that of his personal union to the Lord in glory. Paul is the great divinely chosen opener to us of truth for this age.

The great doctrines that Paul reveals may be outlined as follows-

1. The unrighteousness before God of all men.

2. The impossibility of justification by works before God-that is, of any man’s attaining a standing of righteousness before God, by anything done by him. Do what a man may, he is a condemned sinner still.

3. The fact and the scripturalness of righteousness on the free gift principle-that is, of a Divine righteousness, separate from all man’s doings, conferred upon man as a free gift from God.

4. Propitiation: That satisfaction of God’s Holy nature and law for man’s sins rendered by Christ’s blood.

5. Reconciliation: The removal, by Christ’s death for man of that obstacle to righteousness which man’s sin had set up between God and man.

6. The plan of the actual conferring of the gift of righteousness upon all who believe, without any distinction. This change of a sinner’s standing before God, from one of condemnation to one of righteousness, is called Justification, Negatively, it is deliverance from guilt on account of Christ’s shed blood, and deliverance out of the old creation, by identification in death with Christ on the Cross. Positively, it is a new standing in the risen Christ before God.

7. Redemption-the buying back of the soul through the blood of Christ from sin; from the curse of the law- even death, involving, exclusion from God, under penalty; from the “power of death,” which involves the hand of the enemy; and from all iniquity.

8. Forgiveness-the going forth of Divine tenderness in remitting penalty for sin, in view of the blood of Christ trusted in; and in complacency and fellowship, to creatures who before were necessarily under Divine judgment.

9. Remission of sins-that is, the actual removing of transgressions or trespasses from the sinner, so that for all time and eternity his sins shall not again be upon him.

10. Identification-(see above, Justification) the great fact that those who are in Christ were united with Him at the Cross, by God’s sovereign inscrutable act; were crucified with Christ and buried with Him; so that their history is now ended before God; and when Christ was raised up as the First-born of the new creation, they also were raised up with Him, and their history began as new creatures in God’s sight, in Christ, the last Adam.

Of course, in the experience of the Christian, there comes a time when he is actually made partaker of this new life-that point of time when he is, as we say, saved, or converted, or born again, ect. Nevertheless, the life that is in every Christian came up out of the tomb, and it is in Christ Jesus that a man is created anew.

11. Incorporation. This tremendous doctrine Paul alone mentions, and he makes it practically the foundation of all his exhortations to the saints with regard to their conduct and life. By “incorporation” we mean the fact that all those who are really saved and are new creatures in Christ Jesus become members of one organism, which is more real than the very earth we tread upon called “the Body of Christ,”-Christ Himself in heaven being the Head of this Body, and every real Christian a member of it. So that believers are thus members of Christ in heaven, and also members one of another here on earth. No wonder Paul is able to exhort the saints to love one another when they are members one of another! (Rom. 12, I Cor. 12 and Eph. 4).

12. Inhabitation. The wonderful fact that the Body of Christ and each member of it individually is inhabited, indwelt, by the Holy Ghost Himself, and not only so, but that the Church is being “built together” as a great temple of God so that in the future God’s actual eternal dwelling place will be this wonderful, mysterious company built into a building called “a holy habitation of God in the Spirit.”

This mystery is a great and marvelous one, the fact that we are saved, are partakers now of the life of the Lord in glory, that the Holy Spirit indwells us.

13. Divine Exhibition-that is, that through the Church, in the ages to come, is to be made known that which God counts His “riches,” even His Grace (Eph. 2:7; 3:10).

The failure or refusal to discern the Pauline Gospel as a separate and new revelation and not a “development from Judaism,” accounts for two-thirds of the confusion in many people’s minds today as regards just what the Gospel is. Paul’s Gospel will suffer no admixture with works on the one hand or religious pretensions and performances on the other. It is as simple and clear as the sunlight from heaven. The end of man is where God begins in Romans 3, at what might be called the opening of the Pauline Revelation. Most unsaved people today believe in their hearts that the reason they are not saved is because of something they have not yet done, some step that remains for them to take before God will accept them. But this is absolutely untrue. When Christ said, “It is finished,” He meant that had, then and there, paid the debt for the whole human race. “He gave Himself a ransom for all” (I Tim. 2:6).

Now Paul in his wonderful revelation declares that God hath reconciled the world to Himself; that God was in Christ (at the Cross) reconciling the world unto Himself (II Cor. 5:19). Men do not know this, but they conceive that something stands between them and God, before God will accept or forgive them. If you tell a man that God is demanding no good works of him whatsoever, no religious observances or church ordinances, that God is not asking him to undertake any duties at all, but that God invites him to believe a glad message that his sins have already been dealt with at the Cross, and that God expects him to believe this good news and be exceedingly happy about it-if you tell an unsaved man such a story as this, he is astonished and overwhelmed-yet this is the Gospel!

Would that we had grace just as vigorously to defend his great message today, whether from its enemies or its real friends who do not see it clearly as yet; or who, like Peter (Gal. 2), through fear of others, are ready to compromise and tone down the Gospel of God.

REMEMBER: ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD, THOSE WHO FOLLOW PAUL ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST!


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Read here why the Jews are right! -- Anonymous, 22:21:59 12/29/01 Sat

Bs"d

Shalom dear readers,

Hereby I want to tell you about the one true God, and give you shocking facts and data that has been suppressed by the Christian church for 2000 years. This was done by, amongst other things, burning Bible translators on the stake, mass burnings of Bible translations and corrupting Bible translations.
But now the truth is out. Look here:

www.geocities.com/Metzad

Please send this message to every Christian & messianic Jew you know and/or post it on every message board you can find. One way of loving God is making Him known amongst the nations. One way of loving your fellow man is showing him the truth and revealing the falsehood he has been exposed to.

Eliyahu

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[> Re: Read here why the Jews are right! -- Anonymous, 15:13:36 01/24/02 Thu

You are a Christ hater that have done this for years! You go after Pro Jesus message boards with the intentions of planting a doctrine of demons! Colossians 3, 1st Peter 3, Hebrews 1,2 and 8 all says that Christ Jesus sits onthe right hand of God as his son and all must come to Him (Jesus) to get to God. Your ancestors (along with Gentiles) crucified Christ and said nothing against the Roman's pagan idols. You worshipped Baal in the Old Testament and now trying to exalt yourselves a high priest in place of Christ in the new! Your teachings are garbage!

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PRAYER GATHERING! SPENING TIME WITH EACH OF THE THREE! (LADY EXPOSER) -- Anonymous, 15:58:18 10/30/01 Tue

It's now time for more instruction to strengthen our relationship with the Heavenly King! But this time, we must have three days devoted to each person of the Holy Trinity in order to get to know them in a more personal way!

Day 1 (11/2/01)

Devote a full day to Jesus. Actually EVERYDAY has to be devoted to Jesus! (Romans 8). But say aloud to Him that you want to get to know Christ even more. Get to know the purpose and power of his crucifixion and resurrection. Get to know how faith works, and recieve more wisdom and understanding.

Day 2 (11/3/01)

Devote a full day to the Holy Spirit. Ask Him out loud about His immaculate glory, what special gift could you possibly recieve from him (ist Corinthians 12) in order to do your part in strengthing the church, and help you become more passionate and obedient to God through Christ.

Day 3 (11/4/01)

Devote the final day to the king pin of the three who created them both. Ask Him out loud to allow you to see more of His holy power and presence, to have the same obedience of Jesus, to recieve the Holy Spirit in your life, and to know His voice without being decieved in any way.

The purpose for these three day instructions is to have an incresed, powerful, intimate understaning of the Hoily Trinity even better than a child spending time with their mother one day and the father the next. Getting to know them one on one will further your love, obedience, and understanding which we all need. If you notice these three days match the three days that Jesus was crucified and resurrected(Fri-Sun). As His glory strengthend for the sake of mankind, so will our love and obedience because our spirit died with Christ on the cross and a new being resurrected (Romans 6). So will our love, obedience, understanding, and blessings will resurrect in Jesus' name.

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So when is the next prayer gathering? -- Anonymous, 17:57:58 10/16/01 Tue


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[> Re: So when is the next prayer gathering? -- Anonymous, 16:44:29 10/22/01 Mon

(LADY EXPOSER) Soon.

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Another Prayer Gathering on 9/6/01! -- Anonymous, 18:27:59 09/05/01 Wed

It's time once again for a 15 minutes contact with the Price and King of Heaven as we are unified together! On 9/6/01 at 11pm, let us gather together in glorious praise to Christ the Lord, Father GOD, and the Holy Spirit. This time while gathering for 15 mins, whereever you are, sit quietly with both your hands lifted towards to ceiling. Ask GOD in Jesus' name to feel the same love, the same passion that He has for mankind through the crucifixion on Calvary. Close your eyes and vision Jesus being crucified for all mankind. For the ones that blaspheme His name, to the ones that are more than willing to die for Him. See His torment for us. In your thoughts, see the sky above the three crosses and imagine a giant sized hand brighter than snow covering the corss Jesus is nailed on. Then open your eyes an imagine a holy cross the color brighter than snow on the wall of the room where you are in this prayer gathering. Then imagine a bloddy rag that he wore while being crucified. See it rise up and coming into your hands. This is the symbol to inform us that we are next to carry the message of holiness. Just as Elijah
passed his cloak on to Elisha when he was carried off into Heaven (2nd Kings 2), we are given Jesus' bloddy rag to sperad to Gospel message and use the gifts of the Holy Spirit (Mark 16, ist Corinthians 12). Afterwards give Jesus the praise for sacrificing Himslef for us. Praise the Holy Spirit for giving us the gifts of wisdom, knowledge, healing, and other things. And especially give the praise to GOD for directing it all. After this make your prayers known and give additional praise afterwards.

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[> Re: Another Prayer Gathering on 9/6/01! -- Anonymous, 18:56:16 09/05/01 Wed

I am certainly going to partake! The Lord's presence is always very strong everytime I do!!

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Prayer Gathering 8/2/2001 (LADY EXPOSER) -- Anonymous, 15:00:41 07/31/01 Tue

It's time once again for another prayer gathering summoned by Christ the Lord. It's just glorious to know that readers love this
15 min prayer and praise gatherings. On Thursday August 2nd 2001 at 10:45pm EST for only 15 mins, connect with me as we
make contact with Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and of course GOD himself. This time, imagine yourself standing on pure white stairs
that's whiter than snow shining brightly. Inside each of the stairs are round shaped diamonds 2 inches in height and width being
blown about like lotto numbers inside a glass bowl. As you walk up each step, you're able to see to see the diamonds inside the
steps. When your feet are off the steps, the white light from them is too bright to see the diamonds. Around you is nothing else
but brightness. Above you is a bright, blue sky with white clouds. In front of you is a golden throne. Sitting in it is Jesus. Above
Jesus is a blaze of white fire standing 50 ft tall and 10 ft wide. This represents the presence of GOD. The cool wind blowing on
you represents the presence of the Holy Spirit. Flying above the white fire are seraphims (The highest ranking angels). They
have six wings. And in this image they are made like humans but in the image of light whiter than snow and shining brightly.
Take Jesus by the hand, kneel down, and make your praises and prayers to Him. Make the praise first. Jesus is the intercessor
to God (John 14, Romans 8, Hebrews 2). It's time to thank the Lord GOD instead of treating Him like an object (Matthew 6,
Romans 1). Be sure to praise GOD for His Word being extremely reliable, undefeated, and unfailing. For keeping you
sheltered and safe. For not allowing thing to get worse if you suffered a horrible event. Pray also for your enemies. People who
hurt you in any kind of way or are jealous of you. Pray that GOD bless them. This is for your own good in order to keep you
from falling in to evil GODless acts of any kind which will result in reaping a harvest of death (Matthew 5, ROmans 12, 2nd
Corinthians 2 and 11). Afterwards, let your requests be made known to GOd. Through Jesus, pray also for righteousness,
boldness, courage, happiness, protection, wisdom, knowledge, anointing, strength, endurance, forgiveness, and love. Pray to
have the same behavior as Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit. After you make your praises and prayers, give Christ a hug
and even kiss Him on the cheek. Let Him know that you do love Him. Doing all of this will strengthen your faith having you to
grow into a better Christian.

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[> Re: Prayer Gathering 8/2/2001 -- Anonymous, 18:57:24 07/31/01 Tue

I'll partake in it!

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So when it the next prayer gathering? -- Anonymous, 13:18:25 07/27/01 Fri


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[> Re: So when it the next prayer gathering? -- Anonymous, 17:23:21 07/30/01 Mon

(LADY EXPOSER)I am going to place another on here tommorow.

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Why Christ? -- Anonymous, 18:02:34 07/25/01 Wed

Jesus Christ is God's only cure for our sin. Through Him you can know God personally and
experience His love.


Jesus died in our place. "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet
sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8, NASV). Jesus rose from the dead. "...Christ died for our sins . .
. He was buried . . . He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures . . . He appeared to
Cephas [Peter], then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred . . ." (1 Cor.
15:3-6, NASV). Jesus is the only way to God. Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the
life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me" (John 14:6, NASV). God has done the work to bridge
the gap which cuts us off from Him. He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross in our place to
pay the penalty for our sin. But it is not enough just to know these truths. We must take the next step .
. . and "cross the bridge."


We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know God
personally and experience His love.


We must receive Christ. "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children
of God, even to those who believe in His name" (John 1:12, NASV). We receive Christ by personal
invitation. Thus, receiving Christ involves turning to God from self (repentance) and trusting Christ to
come into our lives to forgive our sins so that we can begin our personal relationship with Him. Just to
know in your mind that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins is not
enough. We receive Jesus Christ by faith, as an act of the will. Would you like to accept Jesus'
invitation to life? You can receive Jesus Christ right now by faith through prayer. God knows your heart
and is not so concerned with your words as He is with the attitude of your heart. Millions of people all
around the world have already found new life in Christ. Here is a suggested prayer which can help you
express your trust in Jesus, too:



Dear Lord Jesus, I want to know You personally. Thank You for dying on
the cross for my sins and for rising from the dead. I open the door of my
life and receive You as my Savior and Lord. I trust You now to forgive my
sins and give me eternal life. Please make me the kind of person You want
me to be.

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PRAYER NIGHT! (LADY EXPOSER) -- Anonymous, 16:42:02 07/16/01 Mon

Once again it's time for another prayer gathering summoned by Christ the Lord. All that would like to join, it will be on Tuesday
night 7/17/01 at 11pm EST. This will last for only 15 minutes. Let's get together in the name of Jesus who's our contact for
release of bondage's and to give Him our thanks for His glory and Honor. Hebrews 10, Matthew 6,7 and Luke 18 reminds us
that they power of prayer is the power of reaction and solution. The power of releasing your stress, problems, and blessings for
one another to GOD. It is NOT a religious tradition of meaningless words but of help requests and thanksgiving. Want any of
your bondages removed? Looking for answers? What to give thanks? (just as important as praying for needs) Then connect
with me in prayer to GOD through Christ Jesus who will then send the power of the Holy Spirit to strengthen out faith. During
this prayer night, GOD wants us to literally see ourselves standing on a golden platform with long golden, aztec style steps,
feeling the pleasant, cool wind underneath the sunny, blue, cloudy sky with the smells of soft perfumes in the air.

In the middle will be a golden altar with white fire coming from it. Fire represents the presence of GOD (exodus 13, Acts
12) Don't know why it's white. WHen imagining this, make your prayers and praises. Be sure to make your praises thanking
Him for things because things could be worse. If you have the blessings you wanted, you may not ever get anymore for refusing
to be thankful (1st Corinthians 8). In the sky, GOD wants you to imagine Jesus in your thought sitting on a golden throne. Why
do it like this? you might ask. I don't know. But since GOD sent Peter a vision of birds and reptiles coming from the four
corners of the earth (Acts 10), then you should know that this isn't in anyway more strange. You know how mysterious GOD
can be (1st Corinthians 3). But when this is done, watch a miraculous change to happen in your life for the better. In order to
get something you never had, you must do something you never done. It worked for Jesus healing the blind man with spit and
mud as well as the crippled man who had a hole torn in a roof of a house in order to get to Jesus due to the massive crowds.
But when you partake in the prayer gathering and you have to do it in faith (Matthew 13). Watch the spirit of gossip, lust,
vengeance, bitterness, jealousy, etc. diminish with the work of obedience (Romans 8, Galatians 5, James 2).
Obedience will cause GODlessness in your life to become weaker and weaker until eliminated. It maybe painful to let go
because of the demand of the flesh, but just as the cruxicixtion of Jesus was painful for Him. He reaped a harvest from the
blessings of His resurrection (Colassians 1). The main one being that we are now called GOD's children who are saved from
death, Hell, and the Grave (Acts 2). Since our old selves dies with Christ (Romans 6) we have to go through the pain of
crucifying our old selves in order to reap a harvest of blessings through the resurrection of our new selves. (2nd Corinthians 5).

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[> Re: PRAYER NIGHT! -- Anonymous, 17:10:13 07/16/01 Mon

WOW this surely sounds divine! I will participate!

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[> [> Re: PRAYER NIGHT!--Trinity Love -- Anonymous, 17:16:31 07/16/01 Mon

So will I!

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[> [> [> Re: PRAYER NIGHT! -- Anonymous, 14:56:25 07/18/01 Wed

That was so extraordinary! I imagined the format like you said and never felt the presence of God so strong like that! It was incredible!

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[> [> [> [> Re: PRAYER NIGHT! -- Anonymous, 17:46:43 07/18/01 Wed

(LADY EXPOSER) The Lord GOD deserve ALL the praise for giving us the keys of contact through His Son Jesus!

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Prayer Night -- Anonymous, 16:25:15 07/18/01 Wed

Will there be another one? After that one I felt so much at peach with Jesus.

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[> Re: Prayer Night -- Anonymous, 16:27:09 07/18/01 Wed

Sorry, but I meant "at peace"

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[> [> Re: Prayer Night--Trinity Love -- Anonymous, 17:02:41 07/18/01 Wed

Because other were gathered together in Jesus' name for prayer, it made spending time with God more powerful.

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[> [> [> Re: Prayer Night -- Anonymous, 17:45:15 07/18/01 Wed

(LADY EXPOSER) REALLY! That's great to hear! The things GOD use in order to do the miraculous!

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To God be the Glory! -- Anonymous, 17:30:44 06/27/01 Wed

To God Be the Glory!

Christ supernaturally empowers our lives and enables us to do
good works. Then He rewards us for the works that He
Himself empowered in the first place! What a wonderful God
we serve!

When the twenty-four elders cast their crowns at Jesus' feet in
Revelation 4:9-10, they are simply giving credit where credit is
due. They are acknowledging, "Everything good in me comes
from You. Everything good I've ever done has come from
You." Constantly they acknowledge, "This reward should really
go to You."

If you receive great reward, your reward will bring continual
honor to Jesus Christ. On the other hand, if you go into heaven
with no reward, your life has brought no honor to Him at all.

Is It Selfish to Seek Reward?

At one point in my life I told the Lord, "I don’t want reward; I just
want to serve You." Like many Christians I was not motivated
at all by the verses about reward. I was not allowing those
scriptures to have their proper impact on my mind and heart. I
realize now that I suffered from a common misconception. I
thought it would be selfish to seek reward because I didn’t
understand what the reward is.

Those who are rich in heavenly treasure will not be sifting gold
coins through their fingers as they giggle uncontrollably. They
will be rich in God's pleasure. They will be able to enter into
the joy of their Master. They will enjoy wonderful intimacy with
God. They will be useful to Him forever. They will be able to
"take hold of the life which is life indeed" (I Timothy 6:19).

Is it wrong to seek these things? Obviously not. On the
contrary, Jesus commands it! He tells us to lay up treasures
for ourselves in heaven (Matthew 6:20). He urges us to
become "rich toward God" (Luke 12:21). It’s a healthy
ambition, a holy ambition. In fact it’s an ambition that frees us
from selfishness because it trains us to seek the pleasure and
glory of God.

If we never think about reward or if we hold the false notion
that all will get the same reward in heaven, we will lack
motivation God intended us to have.

How many Christians do you know who seek to please God
with as much diligence and intensity as an Olympic athlete
seeking a gold medal? What would happen to Christianity if
Christians came to believe that the rewards God wants to give
us have value exceeding that of an Olympic gold medal by a
million fold? That's not an over-exaggeration; that's an
under-exaggeration.

The one thing that will provide us with the motivation we need
is the truth. If we simply believed the truth about what is at
stake, we would be more motivated than the most motivated
Olympic champion.

Paul expresses his yearning that we would understand this
truth in 1 Corinthians 9:24-25:

"Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only
one gets the prize? Run in such a way that you will get the
prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict
training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; we do it to
get a crown that will last forever."

Paul likely had the Isthmian games in mind when he wrote the
passage above. The Isthmian games of the Greek peninsula
were a forerunner of our modern Olympic games. The umpire
of the games presided from a raised platform called the
"judgment seat." From there he watched the events, and
from there he ultimately rewarded the winners.

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Question? -- Anonymous, 18:37:32 05/29/01 Tue

If God forgives me everytime I ask, why do I still
feel so guilty?







(Letter)

I desperately need your help with a problem. I was saved
four years ago, and I've tried to live a Christian life. I have
messed up a lot, but every time I've asked God to forgive
me. And then I'm happy again because I know He
forgives.

But here lately it seems like I'm constantly feeling guilty
about things I've done. I've even started feeling guilty about
things I'm not even sure if I've done. I've asked God to
forgive me if I did do something wrong, but I still feel guilty.
I want the joy back that I first experienced when I first
became a Christian. Why do I feel guilty?

-Jennifer


You are being honest about a difficult subject, Jennifer. I talk to
thousands of students, and I know many of them feel the same way you
are feeling. Your openness can help them.

You understand what guilt is, but I don't believe you fully grasp the
greatness of God's forgiveness. I want you to understand that when you
accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior, God promised that He would never
stop forgiving you, no matter what you do wrong.

But don't take my word. Look at God's words in 1 John 1:7, "But if we
walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another,
and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin."

That means God continues to purify us even while we are trying, as you
are, to live the Christian life. He does that through the blood of Jesus
Christ, the blood which saved you forever four years ago.

But you must also remember, Jennifer, that while God wants you to know
you are forgiven, Satan wants you to feel guilty. Satan, the prince of
darkness, knows your feelings of guilt keep you (in your mind) separated
from God.

The Book of Revelation calls Satan the deceiver of the whole world. And
in Revelation 12:10, he is called the "accuser of our brothers." However,
while Satan tries to accuse you and make you feel guilty, God declares
that you are as pure as Jesus Christ. God said that we are completely
forgiven because Jesus paid the penalty for our sins when He died on the
cross.

"He has done this through the death on the cross of His own human body,
and now as a result Christ has brought you into the very presence of God,
and you are standing before Him with nothing left against you--nothing left
that He could even chide you for" (Col 1:22, TLB). So you see, God has
done a truly awesome thing. Because you have believed in Christ and
accepted what He did for you, God sees you as completely pure and holy,
without any faults. And finally, Jennifer, I sense that a lot of what you
believe about yourself and about God is based on your feelings are easily
changed. The weather can affect your feelings.

But nothing can change the facts in God's Word. And there is where you
have to put you faith--in the facts revealed in the Bible and not in your
feelings.

So when you have feelings of guilt when there's no basis for that guilt, go
back to the facts. Those facts tell you that you are loved by God,
completely pure and holy through Jesus Christ and constantly cleansed by
the Heavenly Father. Bank on those facts, Jennifer.

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