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>>>Randy, I cannot reply much longer, because I must get >>>back to work. >> >>Thanks again for your reply, Travis. Here are mine... >> >>>1. Ranching has been in Texas since the Spaniards. >>>This goes back as far as the 17th century. The cowboy >>>of Texas came from south America. >> >>RANCHING, by your definition, goes back even further >>than THAT! You dont define it. Do you mean by >>"ranching" an economy dominated by large acreage of >>cattle? You must first define "ranching". >> >>No, the Texas cowboy does NOT have its prototype in >>the 17th century. Oh yeah, perhaps, you could make >>that connection in the same way that a blunderbuss >>musket was a forerunner to a Springfield rifle. >>EVERYthing has a connection and evolution to >>SOMETHING. Mississippi and Alabama are "cattle >>states" too. They were also, at one time, possessions >>of Spain. >> >>Bottom line. The original "Texas Cowboys" were mostly >>ex-Confederate soldiers and/or sons of them. Their >>habits and all were mostly derived from the original >>Anglo Southern stock, NOT the Mexican "Vaquero" THAT >>only makes sense, as most of them CAME west from East >>Texas and the Old South. Do you truly think they >>changed culture when they crossed the Sabine River? >>That is, with all due respect, ridiculous. >> >> >>>2. Playing the race card? I don't know what you mean >>>about that, but if you don't see things from other >>>peoples perspectives you don't get a complete >history. >> >>All I can say here is, go back and read your own posts >>on THAT one. Look at the origin of times that >>race/ethnic backgroud is mentioned... >> >>>3. Food? Yes, I do see what people around me are >>>eating and it's not fried okra. I live in Central >>>Texas now, not south Texas. >> >>As I say, Travis, YOUR Texas is not MY Texas. >> >>>4. Hispanic heritage? I have some of that, but I am >>>mostly European by blood.(French, Irish, scot, with >>>some hispanic and native American). >> >>I respect that. >> >>>5. My experience is not Texan? Well, by that >>>definition, most Texans' experience is not Texan. >> >>No. It is that your experience is not truly Texas. >>As to your definition of "most Texans"? I am really >>AM getting weary of arguing this point. Let me state >>it for the record: >> >>86% of Texans considerer themselves to live in the >>South. 70% consider themselves Southerners. When >>given a choice, 71% of Texans chose "South" over >>"West". As a point of numerical reference? This >>figure beat out North Carolina and Virginia, and etc, >>etc. (although in those states, the alternate choice >>was "East") >> >>With all due respect, it is you who seems to have an >>issue with this. >> >>Also, please check out settlement patterns in Texas. >>PLEASE. Migrants from the Deep South tended to settle >>in East Texas, and those from the Upper South went to >>North and Central Texas. West Texas was a bit of a >>combination... >> >>> >>>Also, I think that your arguments come from your own >>>perspective. YOur online name "Texasreb" shows your >>>southern pride. >> >>SURE it does! And I appreciate what you say! >> >>>I'm glad you are proud of your southern roots, but >for >>>the majority of TExans outside of East TExas this is >>>not the case. >> >>See the figures on the Southern Focus Poll I posted >>(this is a culmination of 14 years of survey) What >>else CAN be said but how MOST Texans feel on being >>Southern or not? >> >> >>>6. Sorry, but TExas did fair better than the majority >>>of other confederate states because of ranching. >>>Ranching did not come later as you say. Ranching has >>>been practiced long before with the Canary Islands >>>practicing it first. >> >>*sighs* At LEAST you now admit Texas was a >>Confederate State! LOL Great. Earlier you didn't >>see, to acknowlege it at all! >> >>BUT.. as long as we are on the subject? >> >>Ranching came into being in Texas AFTER the War. Read >>the history of it! >> >>> >>>7. I would request that we keep this civil. >> >> >>I very much agree. And I put it up for judgement of >>others to decide if this has not been the case so >>far... > >Best Texas and Southern regards! > >Randy (TexasReb)
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