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Subject: Is there anything else that has the complete "rules" that are frequently discussed on these boards? Rules like "these aren't rules, only guidelines", "you actually have until the end of the calendar year to move up in grades", "a prelim first expires after a couple of years and you have to start over"...

would really love some clarification
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Date Posted: 07:20:32 02/11/17 Sat
In reply to: Boston Feis Dad 's message, "Requirements to move from one level to another" on 10:24:25 02/10/17 Fri

since all the schools seem to go by different rules. And please don't tell me to ask my TC, LOL, I go by what my TC says to do but it's puzzling to my dancer when she's told by other dancers from different schools that she's breaking the rules by not moving up in grades because their TCs tell them something different. My dancer will continue to follow our TC but I'm curious

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[> [> Subject: What, specifically, are you seeking clarification on? It seems like this is not an abstract question and there is something in particular you want to know. Why don't you just ask it here?

Don't be coy or vague
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Date Posted: 09:47:18 02/11/17 Sat

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[> [> [> Subject: Sorry, thought I was pretty clear, was not meaning to be coy or vague. I listed three examples of things that are not in the rules in the link provided but which I have seen on this board in particular several times over the past few years. I was asking if there was any official clarification that these things that I mentioned are true.

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Date Posted: 20:16:22 02/11/17 Sat

For example, the rules in the link provided state that Novice is open to "Competitors who have placed
1st, 2nd, or 3rd, in an adv.
Beginner category & have
never placed 1st in Novice." That, to me, would seem to indicate that Novice is NOT open to dancers who HAVE placed first in Novice. Yet I have seen people state that this is only a guideline and that it is up to the TC to move or not move even if the dancer has placed first multiple times. I was asking if there was somewhere where this extra information, that this is only a guideline or that the dancer has until the end of the calendar year, is available from NAIDC or some other governing body. I don't care particularly either way but it is a little confusing.

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[> [> Subject: Idk if the rules are online, but our very rule-compliant TC has often updated her students on the rules after regional meetings. That Nov rule means you can't compete in a particular Nov dance if you earned a Nov 1st in it in the prior calendar year. You are free to stay in Nov and win all the 1sts you can in the same year. Some TCs used to keep dancers in Nov in all dances until they had 1sts in all. This is no longer allowed and hasn't been for over 10 years. What is up to TC's discretion is

old mom
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Date Posted: 05:26:02 02/12/17 Sun

whether to move the dancer up immediately after getting a first in say the Novice Reel, or to keep the child there through December 31 to earn many firsts. Our TC is a firm believer in the latter. One first could be a fluke, a good day, a generous judge. May not mean you're ready for Prizewinner. So she likes to see many. But even with one she will move you up for the next year. Yes, some other kids will resent this, but honestly, if they can't beat everyone in their comp they don't deserve 1st. Their turn will come.

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[> [> [> Subject: To answer your earlier questions, your dd is not breaking any rules by not moving up until January 1st. The dancers who are saying this just want her to move up so they can win. Ignore them. As for prelim firsts, they do not expire. The confusion may come from the fact that open champ dancers can move back to prelim if they haven't placed after 2 years. It may interest your dd and others to know that

old mom
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Date Posted: 05:36:25 02/12/17 Sun

a PW dancer need never move up if they don't wish to. It's the only grades level you can stay in forever if you wish, even if you have dozens of 1sts. Most PWs can't wait to get to Prelim but it's completely optional. Also some TCs move a nonplacing prelim back to PW for awhile, then give them another try at prelim. This usually causes all kinds of resentment but is perfectly legal.

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