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Subject: Inappropriate behavior by a musician


Author:
dance mom
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Date Posted: 20:49:14 04/24/17 Mon

At the Horgan Feis on Saturday,I was sitting next to this poor woman who was doing her daughter's hair when the champ stage musician came out of nowhere and started verbally assaulting her because a woman had used the men's room (not this lady).
He was just mad it happened and decided to yell at this lady because he thought she should have stopped the other adult from using the Men's room. But the worst part is when she stated back to him "stop yelling at me, I wasn't in the Men's room", he called her a bitch in front of all our kids!
This man should not be around children. He totally crossed the line.
This family was just minding their business and he obviously has some anger issues.
My daughter danced to him on the champ stage and we couldn't wait to get away from him.
We will certainly rethink attending feis he will be playing at in the future.

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[> Subject: Men'sroom


Author:
DM
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Date Posted: 15:03:13 04/25/17 Tue

Classy... not.

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[> [> Subject: Think you're missing several points, perhaps intentionally. 1. The mother who was verbally attacked did not use the men's room. She simply had the misfortune to be standing nearby when this angry man decided to verbally abuse her. 2. Women using a men's room at a feis is not unheard of. It's quite sensible. There are far fewer males than females at a feis. For the other woman to have to wait in line for the women's room while the men's room stood empty would be nonsensical.


Author:
on point
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Date Posted: 17:45:49 04/25/17 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: What is also missing is the entire thread about this over the weekend that was taken down which gave many more details--corroborated by others who witnessed it and have witnessed it in the past.


Author:
Sure this will be taken down too.
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Date Posted: 05:29:35 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> Subject: That was taken down because OP had signed the post "Horgan Feis" to indicate where he/she was. But someone felt this made it look like it was posted by the Horgans, which it definitely was not. It is not possible to edit a post so sometimes deletion is the only option.


Author:
Moderator
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Date Posted: 11:23:52 04/26/17 Wed


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[> Subject: Something sounds fishy about this story


Author:
ID Mom
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Date Posted: 22:36:18 04/25/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: In what way?


Author:
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Date Posted: 05:01:11 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: No child who hears her mother being called a bitch would be "giggling". You are a liar.


Author:
None of this is accurate
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Date Posted: 09:43:02 04/26/17 Wed

I sat right next to this family and what you did Sir was completely overly aggressive and totally inappropriate around a child. I'm disgusted that my kid had to listen to it. And she's a teenager. Not a small child like the one you directed your rage at. You are a bully and I'm sure if this woman's husband were standing there you would not be so "courageous". Furthermore, after talking with other parents it sounds like you have a habit of lashing out. Perhaps you should direct your talents elsewhere so you don't feel so much rage and hatred. Maybe this sport is not for you.

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[> Subject: Rest of the story


Author:
I was there
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Date Posted: 09:03:42 04/26/17 Wed

A good portion of the entire story is missing here. The musician was about to enter the Men's room when a woman moved to block him from entering, just as another woman came out of the Men's room. Both women laughed as the musician entered to use the facilities. Upon exiting, he said in normal voice to the woman still just outside the door; "I don't think it's either funny or appropriate for a woman to be in the Men's room. " and then he walked away.
This woman then shouted across the crowded hallway "I wasn't in the bathroom! I'm not responsible for her!" The musician was already through two sets of doors at this time, yet she yelled loud enough for all to hear, drawing a crowd. The musician turned around to the woman who followed him, and said "excuse me?" Incredulously to this woman who then proceeded to shout in his face. He kept trying to move away saying to her "Have a nice day" but she kept yelling. Her daughter was right next to her, giggling the whole time while this was going on. The musician finally did indeed call her a bitch and got away from this raving woman.

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[> [> Subject: Holy crap. Pays to hear both sides of story.


Author:
Lessons learned every day
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Date Posted: 09:49:13 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: False!! (More inside)


Author:
CF
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Date Posted: 09:53:18 04/26/17 Wed

You are completely full of it. I was also there and The little girl was sobbing not giggling and to acuse a little girl of that behavior is appalling. You are clearly trying to defend yourself and alter facts surrounding your bad behavior. Maybe instead you should zip it and apologize to the TC of the school to preserve a little bit of your reputation.

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[> [> [> Subject: Absolutely true


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Not the person in question
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Date Posted: 10:45:51 04/26/17 Wed

Actually I am not the musician, just one of the numerous people I. The hallway who witnessed the entire back and forth. I admit that him calling the woman a bitch was wrong, but this woman escalates the situation by screaming at the man as he was walking away. She has as much to apologize for her bad behavior as well.

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[> Subject: The good news is that you were not in North Carolina where the daughter would have been arrested for "not using the bathroom of the gender identified on her birth certificate".


Author:
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Date Posted: 16:27:27 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: In CA most of our restrooms are now gender neutral so no problems!


Author:
mm
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Date Posted: 18:21:03 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: What daughter? The OP stated that a woman, not the one who was called a bitch but another woman altogether, used the empty men's room. I've seen this done at feiseanna in the past and it was no big deal.


Author:
old timer
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Date Posted: 19:54:21 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: Been there, done that!


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Oh it's cranky time!
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Date Posted: 20:09:54 04/26/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Right? What's the ratio of females to males at a feis? Reserving 50% of the bathrooms for what may amount to 10% of the humans present makes no sense.


Author:
if you gotta go you gotta go
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Date Posted: 14:47:53 04/27/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Been to feises that they actually changed the signage from mens to womens with some of the restrooms to account for this but the were clearly labeled.


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If he walked in on a women- probably would have called a pervert
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Date Posted: 18:42:17 04/27/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I think in this day and age it would be silly to expect a woman who really needs a bathroom to wait in line while the neighboring bathroom stands empty. I would think nothing of using an empty men's room with no men in it if I needed it.


Author:
common sense
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Date Posted: 19:48:24 04/27/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I agree but I also wouldn't stop any men from entering. I would be in a stall, and if I didn't want to see them at the urinal, I wouldn't look. It's certainly not ok for women to take over the men's room and block men from using it.


Author:
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Date Posted: 19:34:39 05/01/17 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Nobody blocked any men from entering the men's room. A woman used a completely empty men's room. A man came along as she was walking out, and he entered. The mother who was called a bitch by the musician was a few feet away from the door, putting on her dd's wig. Where did you get the idea anybody blocked the door?


Author:
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Date Posted: 04:35:57 05/02/17 Tue


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