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Subject: Any word on what room # to slip the check under the door?


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Wanna get it right this year
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Date Posted: 13:50:54 07/06/17 Thu


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[> Subject: Rude


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Ct mom (sad)
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Date Posted: 15:22:54 07/06/17 Thu

Sometimes I just have to think... "Don't people have better things to do other than rehash old mud?" Kindness works so much better than mean-spiritedness and in our current climate as a nation.. kindness is much needed.
Above all else... be nice

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[> [> Subject: Lol. Sorry but when you get off scot free for cheating, I wouldnt complain about a couple of jokes.


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Maybe don't cheat.
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Date Posted: 16:07:28 07/06/17 Thu


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[> [> Subject: I think when a TC/AD makes a decision to cheat on that scale, and then gets caught, they have to expect that the story isn't going to go away anytime soon. Nobody's forgotten just how low one crooked school owner was willing to go.


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the Irish have long memories
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Date Posted: 19:26:00 07/06/17 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: Can you enlighten those who aren't in the know?


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Date Posted: 09:39:26 07/07/17 Fri

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[> [> [> [> Subject: I thought this was public information


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Watching from the sides
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Date Posted: 11:30:09 07/07/17 Fri

A school from CT was forced to merge last year with a school from walpole as their teacher(s) slipped some numbers under the wrong hotel room door at a major competition. The teachers are also judges so not sure if they are alllowed to judge anymore. Does anyone know the punishment?
I find it odd that the teachers from this school continue to strut around nationals and other competitions as if they did no wrong.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Hadn't heard that. I knew those schools had merged but didn't hear about the backstory. I just drop my dancer off for class, so I never hear any of the dance drama.


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out of the loop
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Date Posted: 12:48:02 07/07/17 Fri

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Correct. Except it was one teacher, not both of them. I think the only "punishment" might have been that the dancers had to compete under the other school's name that year. A short time later, their school name became part of the merged school's name. And now it's like it never happened. I don't think there were any other consequences for the cheating TC. So it seems cheating is A-OK in NE.


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sad to say
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Date Posted: 16:28:57 07/07/17 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Which teacher ?


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Curious
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Date Posted: 16:59:04 07/07/17 Fri

Which teacher? Never heard which of the two

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Oh for goodness sake, if it was one, it was both


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Date Posted: 19:48:09 07/08/17 Sat


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[> Subject: Never Forget


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Date Posted: 13:05:49 07/07/17 Fri


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[> Subject: There was punishment - she couldn't teach for a year. The merger was to make sure the kids weren't affected for something they had no part in. Can we stop beating a dead horse please


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Unnecessary drama
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Date Posted: 07:23:42 07/08/17 Sat


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[> [> Subject: She did teach though and attended championships! Didn't miss a beat and a slap in the face to her students who may have earned their spots but can never quite be sure if it was bought. Especially the ones who stopped placing first after!


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Just sayin
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Date Posted: 10:55:53 07/08/17 Sat

Brought it on themselves

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[> [> [> Subject: What about the dancer who placed second behind the cheater school. I guess she may wonder always -was i suppose to be the champion?


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Will never know- cheaters hurt all involved
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Date Posted: 13:24:08 07/09/17 Sun


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[> [> [> [> Subject: If it's any consolation I have heard that at least one Champ dancer blogged about how this caused her to doubt her placements at a major, very sad really. These dancers did feel the after effects of the cheating by the teachers. Something of which they had no control.


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Date Posted: 18:51:42 07/09/17 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: That is very sad. I wish this teacher had believed in her dancers enough to let them place on their own merits instead of trying to ensure 'success' the way she did it. I also wish that for once this region would take some kind of stand against cheating and punish it.


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she's a very poor role model
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Date Posted: 08:12:32 07/10/17 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Subject: The "cheater school" had no champions. The note went under the wrong door- that's the point. If it went under the correct door we would never have heard about it.


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But yes, this is old and boring now
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Date Posted: 16:46:49 07/10/17 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: You are very naive if you think the time they were caught was the first time they tried to cheat.


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Date Posted: 20:10:54 07/10/17 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Interesting choice of words. There is not one "Cheater" school involved here. There are two. The school that slipped the note under the wrong door AND the school for whom the note was intended


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Just sayin
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Date Posted: 09:01:48 07/11/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: that should be the discussion. Integrity of the judges. A teacher can ask for any favors they want. A judge who grants that favor is the real culprit here.


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Police 5 judges or 500 teachers?
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Date Posted: 12:31:39 07/11/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Teacher is a judge


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Date Posted: 13:02:54 07/11/17 Tue

In this case the two teachers at CT school I believe also have their ADCRG. So basically i am led to believe they were doing this for a long time with fellow Teacher/judges.

You help my school out, then next time I am judge, I will help out your school.

How to prevent this? Judges can't be active teachers.
Sneaks will always find a way.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: If you are caught cheating you should be stripped of your adcrg.


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Might make some think twice
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Date Posted: 19:32:40 07/11/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: what is cheating? "hey, keep an eye on my dancer, she's really good". That's cheating? Or advocating for your dancer? Ask the middle school teacher to give your child a little extra attention. Is that cheating?


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Judges need to ignore the requests. Simple.
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Date Posted: 09:53:46 07/12/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Slipping a check under the door is cheating:


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no question about it
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Date Posted: 15:22:34 07/12/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The incident involved a note not a check. You are fabricating facts.


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From that school, in the know.
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Date Posted: 18:56:47 07/12/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: promise of payment is just as guilty as payment


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Date Posted: 10:03:38 07/13/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It wasn't a promise of payment. It was a list of dancers' names. Sometimes it's just best not to post when you don't know what you're talking about.


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itk
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Date Posted: 17:52:25 07/13/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I thought it was as a list of dancers competitor numbers which would be what s jusge would have to work with in order to do favors.


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Date Posted: 18:50:58 07/13/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Wrong door!?!? Did someone really do this or is this just a rumor?


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If going to cheat, double check room number
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Date Posted: 22:00:44 07/11/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: A well-known NE ADCRG really did this. Slipped it under the wrong door.


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truth is stranger than fiction sometimes
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Date Posted: 17:53:44 07/13/17 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: ^^^^^^^^THIS.


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Yep
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Date Posted: 20:36:59 07/09/17 Sun


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[> Subject: 😂 thanks for the chuckle. I know, I know, it's a serious offense, but it is good to find the humor in things.


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😂
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Date Posted: 14:43:25 07/09/17 Sun


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[> [> Subject: Glad to see that one person took this for what it was intended (mostly).


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OP
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Date Posted: 13:51:38 07/11/17 Tue


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[> Subject: There is not one dance school out there that doesn't "cheat"/ ask their Adjudicator friends to look out for their dancers. Until the judging system changes for ID it will ALWAYS be the same. Get used to it!


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long time retired DM
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Date Posted: 12:59:38 07/11/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Unfortunately I agree with you: (


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Sad
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Date Posted: 20:27:51 07/11/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Exactly. That incident did nothing to stop the blatant cheating that still goes on. Too much time & energy spent on the past.


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jig mom
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Date Posted: 05:27:18 07/12/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: That's not true. First off, you don't have inside knowledge of every single Irish dance school in existence. Secondly, our TC has not and would not do such a thing. She has actual faith in her dancers to place on their own merits. Unlike someone I could name.


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but I won't
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Date Posted: 17:55:50 07/13/17 Thu


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[> [> Subject: Untrue. Our small school has champs who win feises frequently, even against wmh. But tc is not in the game, doesn't entertain favors, etc. majors results show it. Too obvious.


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Honesty doesn't win
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Date Posted: 21:50:41 07/13/17 Thu


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[> [> Subject: I would be willing to bet our school DOES NOT cheat. The remark that they all do is rude and absolutely not the case.


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Sounds like excuses to me.
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Date Posted: 07:13:07 07/23/17 Sun


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