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Subject: Heard convention center cancelled o....


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Date Posted: 08:00:43 08/06/20 Thu


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[> Subject: I’m sure they will find another venue.


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DM
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Date Posted: 08:06:48 08/06/20 Thu

I think it can be done safely in small groups. However If it’s not a qualifier, I’m not sure what the point is.

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[> [> Subject: Even if not for WQs dancers still want to qualify for NANs, will that be open level only?


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Date Posted: 12:54:02 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: Oh that’s true. I didn’t think of that.


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DM
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Date Posted: 13:17:08 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: If it runs (if another venue is found, of course) I think it will absolutely be a qualifier.


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Date Posted: 05:48:12 08/08/20 Sat

the ones that can run and qualify dancers will run and qualify dancers. those that can't run an O will fall back on the 2019 qualifiers.

Of course the 2019 qualifiers, either way, will qualify for Worlds 2021, as they should.

Here's to hoping for a safe, modified O for the NE and elsewhere.

All IMHO

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[> [> [> Subject: I thought CLRG already announced that if even one region’s qualifier is canceled, then the others don’t count as qualifiers?


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DM
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Date Posted: 08:13:01 08/08/20 Sat

At least that’s how our TC explained it to us. New Zealand has already canceled theirs. I honestly can’t see all going ahead.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: that was the original announcement; but it's only if some people from a particular region are not allowed to go (ie if Maine is in lockdown and can't travel)


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Shilza
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Date Posted: 12:53:13 08/08/20 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: The entire country of NZ cannot have their qualifier. That was cancelled last month.


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No O can be a qualifier since NZ cancelled unless CLRG updates guidance
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Date Posted: 13:22:52 08/08/20 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: All 5 dancers from NZ??


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Date Posted: 12:09:42 08/12/20 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They matter, just as much as any other region. Think if the roles were reversed


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Just as much talent
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Date Posted: 19:40:33 08/12/20 Wed


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[> Subject: Nothing posted on their website past Sept events-


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dd
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Date Posted: 09:09:21 08/06/20 Thu


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[> Subject: Confirming cancellation- upsetting all across the board. Everyone stay safe.


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Until we meet again!
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Date Posted: 09:58:41 08/06/20 Thu


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[> Subject: New Hampshire seems like the perfect place to me. They are allowing indoor & outdoor gatherings. Maybe even wait til January if possible?


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Hopeful!
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Date Posted: 12:38:30 08/06/20 Thu


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[> Subject: NH is a great idea have been having large tournaments They could set up heated tents outdoor- hopefully the powers that be are looking at alternatives!


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Dd
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Date Posted: 13:07:21 08/06/20 Thu


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[> Subject: I agree. And why not just move the MA Feis like Forbes, etc up to NH this year? If we have other sports tourneys, we can certainly have a non-contact event like dance!


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Notgivingup
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Date Posted: 13:15:09 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: You say this as if it's so simple. I bet you've never run a feis. It's a hell of a lot of work even when you're having it in a familiar venue, and where your parent volunteers live nearby. It's much more challenging to find a venue in a different state, haul everything including the dance floors long distances, and assume that all the families who normally attend because they can get there in an hour will now be willing to travel out of state, pay for lodging, etc., especially when


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longtime feis committee member
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Date Posted: 16:00:27 08/09/20 Sun

it could all be for naught if virus numbers ratchet up and lead to more lockdowns.

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[> [> [> Subject: There would be plenty of people willing to help pull this off. Time to pivot and find a way if possible.


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DM
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Date Posted: 14:09:19 08/10/20 Mon


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[> Subject: Confirmed, Oir is canceled. TCRG announced in class today.


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Until next year.
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Date Posted: 13:48:02 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: No. The venue cancelled. The committee is still trying to re-schedule to a different location, date.


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Just wait. Don't give up yet!
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Date Posted: 13:57:40 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: “it is what it is” 🤷‍♀️ According to fearless leader.


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Date Posted: 14:04:02 08/06/20 Thu


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[> Subject: Is it actually cancelled? Does anyone have confirm?


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Date Posted: 16:50:16 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: Schoolwide email from TCRG saying they got confirmation last night cancelling.


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Sad
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Date Posted: 17:39:15 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: We were told only the venue was canceled. Not the event


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Fmm
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Date Posted: 17:47:04 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Same here. Venue cancelled but they are looking into a new one


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Keep the faith
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Date Posted: 17:51:29 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: Cancel confirmed, my teacher cancelled the O intensives she holds every year. champs changing steps for next year.


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it's true
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Date Posted: 18:10:33 08/06/20 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: Yikes. Hope they can pivot back as needed!


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Date Posted: 08:03:17 08/09/20 Sun


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[> Subject: See inside for email from region


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Taken directly from email
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Date Posted: 19:10:34 08/06/20 Thu

Dear New England Members, We have been informed by the Connecticut Convention Center that our 2020 Oireachtas date has officially been canceled: In anticipation of this news, we had already been working, in coordination with other regions worldwide, towards securing viable options going forward. We will send out further information as soon as it is available. We appreciate the cooperation and understanding of our membership during these challenging times, Sent on behalf of the Regional Executive Board and 2020 New England Oireachtas Chairs,

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[> Subject: The email states that convention center cancelled not necessarily the entire event Diff Tcs telling their dancers diff things...


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Dm
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Date Posted: 08:29:19 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: It is rather sad that the information is not clear. How difficult is it to say “Cancelled”?


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Date Posted: 14:20:32 08/07/20 Fri


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[> Subject: If not a qualifier, and no extras (trad and teams) maybe we should call it a day and plan for next year.


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Date Posted: 10:01:54 08/07/20 Fri

If the O is just a big feis - and now without a venue AND being held in the midst of flu season + Covid-19- maybe the region should just call it a day - have NANS in July 2021 to be the thing to work towards for the champs (and 2019 WQ keep their spots for 2021 if it happens- requalify next year for the following year if not) and keep the grades motivated by having them move through levels at teacher discretion if local feiseanna aren't allowed to run. Feeling really discouraged with this most recent news of venue cancellation. Not ready to hang up the shoes, but getting there.

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[> [> Subject: what % of champ dancers will pack it in if there is no O (and most likely no worlds either); maybe that's why they are still trying to have something. young champs will ride it out; older may just move on, and that impacts all around


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Date Posted: 10:45:58 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> [> Subject: Perhaps and hopefully it may help CLRG re-consider feising online?


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Let's keep these kids going!
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Date Posted: 11:51:39 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Our TCs would never allow any of their dancers to be video taped. They are not willing to put their choreography out in any form of social media. Finding any of their choreography posted by dancers is reason for automatic dismissal from the school.


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No on-line feis for us
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Date Posted: 17:05:17 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Sweet jaypers what is wrong with people? We are in a worldwide pandemic and Irish dance as we know it will never be the same- but of courae you should be dismissed if you videotape even one step of your dancing


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No wonder we are where we are
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Date Posted: 20:18:01 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: If the teacher makes up their own choreog, then surely they can just make up more. But if they pay someone else for it, then it doesn't make sense to allow it to be videoed and possibly copied.


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Date Posted: 21:53:31 08/07/20 Fri

If online feises focused on trad speed hard shoes and trad sets, then everyone could participate. No choreog worries, small dance floors are OK, no tricks, no jumping, no spinning, no toe block work. A great compromise, IMHO.

But it'll never happen. TPTB won't go for it.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: This is why Irish dance will crumble. Every dance form has original choreography that is online. ID teachers are so entrenched and uncreative, they can’t pivot in a crisis


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Like now
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Date Posted: 20:52:29 08/08/20 Sat


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[> [> [> Subject: Older will just move on? Are you nuts? This is the last year for many of these kids. Please don't say that so nonchalantly


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It is horrible
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Date Posted: 12:11:45 08/12/20 Wed


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[> Subject: Sadly you will have a lot of Junior and Seniors in High School retiring what’s the point if NO O and too much $$$$ sadly with no feis many will never make OPEN


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Dd (:()
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Date Posted: 06:51:30 08/08/20 Sat


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[> [> Subject: because they love to dance???? that's the point. to foster a community (that gave them so much )for the next generation?


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Shilza
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Date Posted: 12:54:53 08/08/20 Sat


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[> Subject: all states aren't equal


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Masshole
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Date Posted: 08:29:35 08/09/20 Sun

Right now RI has been removed from the "safe state" list for MA (which is ridiculous but not the point).

I would think all 6 NE states would need to be deemed safe for reciprocity in order to hold the O in any of those states.

ME, NH and VT are obviously the best choices as they have the fewest cases in the country but do they really want the Massholes, dirty RIers and fake New Englanders from CT bringing germs to their pristine states?? (kidding!)

I guess time will tell....

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[> [> Subject: I love RI but MA was right to remove it from the list. RI has been allowing their numbers to climb without doing much about it. MA numbers started to climb again so measures had to be taken. As for the O, it's


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Date Posted: 13:28:35 08/09/20 Sun

not all that long since NH asked MA residents to stay home and required them to quarantine for 14 days if they insisted on coming north. Our family has a 2nd home in NH but out of respect for our neighbors there we stayed away. I feel sure NH, ME and VT do not want an invasion of hundreds of dance families from CT, MA and RI. There are comparatively few Irish dancers in the northern NE states, so they should not have to bear the burden, in my opinion. It should be the southern NE states.

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[> [> [> Subject: If schools are opening in NH in Sept


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Date Posted: 14:59:28 08/09/20 Sun

and in the rest of the NE...what is the difference between that and a modified O? If Proper indoor measures are taken: masks required for dancers when not dancing and for all spectators at all times- potentially a 1:1 ratio for dancers, staggered times for comps- as well as physical distancing clearly defined - why can't NH enjoy something that is both safe and good for a lagging economy?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Not sure where you are but there is no indication that schools all over NE are opening next month as you state. I'm in MA where most school systems have not yet announced their Fall plan, but the ones who have are almost all announcing they'll be online only, with a few who are doing a hybrid model with half the kids at school Mon & Tues and half Thurs & Fri. That sounds very different from an Oireachtas to me! The O draws a couple thousand people every year.


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let's use facts
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Date Posted: 16:05:24 08/09/20 Sun


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[> [> [> Subject: what do you mean by staggered times? isn't that the way it is already? even if the hard shoe round starts at 8am, some dancers don't go on stage until closer to 9 or 930. What is a wild guess to how many people are at the O on any particular day? 1000? pretty hard to fathom, when other states are only allowing 50.


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Jeff
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Date Posted: 15:22:17 08/09/20 Sun


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[> [> [> [> Subject: You're right -there are already staggered times at an O...but...


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Date Posted: 09:18:02 08/10/20 Mon

But there is no enforcement (nor has there needed to be) of who is in the room when. Friends in different age groups cheering on their classmates, whole extended families (parents, grandparents, aunts/uncles) cheering on their dancer - teachers and teaching assistants galore plus their significant others- etc. etc. etc.

All of the below is assuming children will mask when not dancing- non- dancing adults will mask at all times (unless you are a musician playing an instrument) and physical distancing will be required while in common spaces. It also assumes ample access to hand sanitizer provided by the facility ;). The NERO should have something for each family to sign that they agree to these very basic safety requirements and that they could be asked to leave if they are found in violation.

So- Lets say you have 400 open level kids dancing in a day-(14 age groups of boys and girls -this happened last year at NERO) and stagger times for each age group (each age group scheduled as they have been in past years).

You enforce a 1:1 ratio (1 parent/guardian per dancer) and only allow TCRGs to attend (no teaching assistants- btw, this was piloted at a UT feis) - with a limited number of teachers allotted to each school allowed to attend each day (4 teachers per school would be fair if 3 ballrooms were running at a time).

If you do this, numbers will not be anywhere near 1000 during each staggered line up.

Example: a group with 80 kids (one of the larger groups last year)- divided into groups of 40 (at a time) in a ballroom similar to the size of the Hartford space- physically distanced with spaces clearly marked with tape - no facility chairs in the room (bring your own, like we do at feiseanna) You start with 80 ppl (dancer + 1 parent/guardian). You add 3 judges, physically distanced. Stagehands x 5 physically distanced- 3 on stage, 2 at entry doors. Musicians x 2 physically distanced + TCRGs (remember- limited number of these) Everyone not performing wears a mask.

You break the 40 dancers already in the ballroom into smaller groups of 10 that then line up as called and are spaced in a physically distanced manner until they dance 2 at a time on a divided stage.

Dancers and their 1:1 stay in the ballroom until everyone in their 40 person cohort has finished. Each dancer returns to their "circle" when they are finished with their round. Dancers can stretch, change shoes, etc. during this time. Protocols in place if a run to the bathroom is needed.

Once the first 40 have danced their HS round, they are moved, by a staff member, in a physically distanced fashion, masked, etc., with their zuca/portable chair and parent/guardian, into a pre-determined holding area (also marked and physically distanced).

Please note- Before the first 40 are moved into the holding area by a staff member, the second group of 40 dancers + parent/guardians have been moved out of the same holding area towards the ballroom to dance by a staff member.

Specific logistics of movement to prevent paths crossing would be specific to whatever location is found.

The SS round moves forward in the same way -however, the judges panel would change, so you would have to have someone sanitize the tables, chairs prior to new judges arriving.

Set round (now making the numbers halve) would be handled the same way. Recalls on social media only.

The age groups not dancing would not be allowed in the ballroom area AT ALL until they are called. This would require more than the usual staffing to screen, but with the limited amount of people in the general space by design, this shouldn't be a problem. Schools should reserve practice rooms and would be responsible for making their spaces safe and stagger times, but this would NOT be part of the O committee's responsibilities.

There should be robust social media coverage on multiple platforms to allow for proper communication, because we all know that life happens, and an estimated time on a schedule may not be accurate in realtime.

This is just one way to stagger times for dancers while mitigating risk. And this is for one of the largest sized groups. The smaller groups should be MUCH easier to manage. Will it require more volunteers? Yes. Will it require us, as a dance community to be more patient? Yes. Will it probably take MUCH longer to do each round? Yes. But it is worth it, if we get the chance to have an O -and have one that responsibly mitigates risks? Probably yes.

One could even imagine splitting the open level O into 3 days (no teams this year, right?) and limiting number of Trad sets entered per school as a way to make numbers on each day as small as possible.

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[> [> [> Subject: BRAVO!!!!! What a fantastic Plan CLRG/NERO please take note


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Date Posted: 11:26:25 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Subject: It's a great plan, actually. Have you figured out what sort of indoor-capacity limit will be needed to make it work, though? 100 ppl in 3-5 ballrooms at once have to get there using common areas. Some states are allowing 35 ppl MAX (not per room).


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Jill
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Date Posted: 11:59:34 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Attached link to website for NH rules regarding precautions needed in different scenarios


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Date Posted: 12:26:34 08/10/20 Mon

Ability to safely distance (6 feet) in a space, as well as the ability follow basic safety guidelines are prioritized over a flat number. It makes more sense in general, given the vast difference in facilities and their room sizes.

A point against NH is that they (reasonably) require a 14 day quarantine prior to entry for those that live anywhere other than in the NE. May be impactful for some?

https://www.nheconomy.com/whatsopen

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: judges and musicians won't come 14 days early


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Date Posted: 13:24:44 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Could be a 24hr provision - looks like there was some language re: overnight guests -if so, may have to stick with NY and NE judges.


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Date Posted: 14:58:43 08/10/20 Mon

5 judge panel - drop high and low to keep it fair with that small number per comp.

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[> [> Subject: NH might be the only option anyway if all New England dancers are to be able to participate.VT requires quarantine based off of county rates, and as of now most of MA, CT, and RI are out of luck


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MA and RI no go for ME
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Date Posted: 13:45:02 08/09/20 Sun


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[> Subject: Not act! It’s been less than 1% for a while now- Ma had an uptick NOT Ct


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Dd
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Date Posted: 18:31:00 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> Subject: It’s canceled. We heard tonight- not worth the money to run it as it’s not a qualifier and there may not even be worlds now...


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Kids heartbroken but get it
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Date Posted: 18:38:02 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> [> Subject: I didn't expect there to be any Oireachtasi this year, but it seems a bit premature to be talking in August about canceling Worlds, doesn't it?


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that's a bit much right now
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Date Posted: 19:47:30 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> [> Subject: Not sure where you heard this but nothing official out yet. The only thing we have seen was the note cancelling the venue. Still time! Could even move to January. Hate to see the older kids miss outt


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No news here
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Date Posted: 20:36:12 08/10/20 Mon


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[> [> [> Subject: Our TC says that decision has NOT yet been made. I think your TC is reading the info wrong


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Just sayin'
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Date Posted: 14:24:27 08/11/20 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: Our TC says no decision has been made. Your TC either doesn't understand the info disseminated thus far to TCs or is jumping the gun, inserting his/her opinion in the place of actual facts.


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what you posted is untrue
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Date Posted: 16:10:33 08/11/20 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: I hope your little ones are surprised by good news (if the NERO can, indeed happen)- I don't think your statement is correct


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Date Posted: 17:28:10 08/11/20 Tue

at this point. Maybe your TC is just trying to manage expectations?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Or your TCRG is wrong. Who knows? It’s not like anyone in ID is known for transparency.


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Date Posted: 17:36:47 08/11/20 Tue


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[> Subject: Really quite concerned at how many people are more worried about holding a competition that about the health and safety of dancers, parents, and judges. We absolutely should not be holding a large competition right now. End of story.


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It’s a pandemic...
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Date Posted: 19:57:03 08/20/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: I feel the same way. I'm appalled by all these crazy dance mommies who are not at all worried about their own family's health and are more than willing to put their TCs and all the judges at risk at something so frivolous. They need to take a good look at what just happened at Notre Dame.


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Date Posted: 17:20:23 08/21/20 Fri


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[> [> [> Subject: Perspective


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Date Posted: 06:12:26 08/22/20 Sat

Notre Dame is dealing with what most on campus college programs are battling as it pertains to CV-19 transmission. Most of the cases are being linked to off-campus gatherings that were not following guidelines. Not much masking and physical distancing at the average college party, if I remember correctly (after all these years..). These are still kids, even if they are 18+ and they are taking risks- as is expected- it isn't surprising AT ALL.

Comparing the above to an Oireachtas that will have mask requirements, volume requirements/limitations and other protocols in place to protect adjudicators, parents and children is not a fair comparison to what is happening at any college campus- or even as a comparison to plans being made in other parts of the country that are blowing up with Covid-19 cases (states with no mask mandates, etc).

We have been very fortunate as a region that most seem to implementing basic precautions (masks/physical distancing) - and the positivity rates and Rt data reflect that, particularly when you look at rates for Community spread.

This competition won't be held if the rates go up - we all know that -but why not put some plans in place that mirror what is happening in our region? Using data driven plans that implement proven protocols is how we get back to living within the confines of this virus.

And, don't forget -and I don't mean this flippantly or in a mean way - we all have the choice to not attend if we feel that the protocols in place aren't stringent enough to provide protection. I know that I will be looking closely at plans/syllabus, and will absolutely not let my kid go if it seems this isn't being taken seriously.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: New author here (not the AP) - I appreciate the intelligence and cohesiveness of your viewpoint. You aren't demanding and moaning - so thank you for that. Question inside:


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Fred.
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Date Posted: 13:09:15 08/22/20 Sat

I also agree that the university (or dance class or oireachtas) can do it's utmost to create and mandate a safe environment, and that all of the attendees are compliant with masking etc.

And I agreed that outside of official class/event hours, families will take it from there in terms of deciding to mask/not, and kids will take it several steps further by taking off masks when hanging with friends (unsupervised), and again, that's their choice.

My question is: what happens when a family notifies their teacher and/or the oireachtas chairpersons on Day Two of the oireachtas that they are symptomatic/tested positive? What is the procedure? Where we live, it is to shut the event down for 48 hours.

That means the event goes unfinished, and everyone who did their best to stay safe spends all that money to attend and still loses the chance to participate.

And yes, we have the choice to attend or not. What happens if enough people don't register/attend, and the event can't pay the bills?

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Not sure but...


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Date Posted: 20:14:46 08/22/20 Sat

I guess it depends on how the committee chooses to manage the event- part of the requirement for attendance could be proof of a negative Covid-19 test (assuming test availability is robust in November- this would have to be part of the discussion) and, possibly, even a "day of" screening tool (temp checks at ballroom location/symptom report).

More volunteers than normal would be needed in general to wrangle people particularly in this scenario. A little off topic, but I hope the committee asks for help throughout the region with this - there are probably a lot of people that would volunteer in order to get this off the ground.

In my area, a positive test (not just being symptomatic) as well as known close contact (considered being within 6ft of a Covid-19 positive person for more than 15 min) are flags to quarantine.

The sad fact is that the turnaround time for most Covid-19 testing is anywhere from 2-3 days - and that is being pretty generous.

IF a Covid-19 negative test is the starting point, the likelihood of having a positive test come back in the midst of a 2-3 day event is highly unlikely -though there could certainly be the potential for contact tracing needed afterwards.

So that aside. Say there Is a positive test connected to an attendee...Hopefully the committee will use a cohorting approach (absolutely doable if numbers are restricted and movement is restricted/monitored during the day- think of it as treating the O like a school day in the 2020-2021 school year - (sigh)). Using this method you can dramatically limit the number of people affected. Would it stink to be affected- absolutely. But it would need to be something that is laid out as a "what if" scenario in communication to parents before fees are paid.

As you mentioned, the facility guidelines in the state where it is held would define what spaces would need to be shut down/cleaned and that could impact scheduling significantly. If we hold it in a state that requires a 48 hour shut down for the full facility - well, that's a real problem as you mentioned...and a full stop. Maybe try to avoid that state altogether in terms of planning. I'm not well versed in facility regs in all the NE states- that would require some fact finding.

As for the event running without enough attendees...it could happen, for many reasons - health concerns And financial concerns particularly because with fewer attendees, the cost will likely be higher per dancer. I would imagine TCs could gather intel from their schools as to who would and would not choose to attend based on guidelines presented to the families as to expected protocols and "what if" scenarios.

Once the committee has a general number of expected attendees, they could then make a general decision as to whether or not it is even in the ballpark of being a break even event -and if it is- they should request registration fees that would be refunded if event is cancelled due to statewide cancellation (as I believe this would relieve them of their contractual obligations).

It would also probably be a good idea to allow late registrations this year, as people may be more inclined to go if positivity rates remain low into the fall, though there still needs to be a capped number of attendees based on facility and scheduling capacities.

Again....The committee would need to be very specific about the what-ifs - and particularly about what would happen if a person tests positive for Covid-19 (during the event or afterwards) while also including the facility/state guidelines for full closure or shut-down of event. Waivers regarding agreement to same should be signed and returned with payment.


This could certainly affect attendance rates. But everyone would know what to expect..."if this, then that"...and with clear communication, we can all conduct a viable personal risk assessment before we choose to go (and pay).

All this to say - It is more than likely the environment around us may shut this all down closer to the date - and it should be shut down if the community positivity rates start climbing. And, in addition, we know we live in a region that won't hesitate to shut it ALL down (thankful for this). I think we will get a feel for how far the planning should go once schools are open for a couple of weeks- if things are spiraling out of control...well, that's the answer, I suppose.

Maybe we should just lose hope- but maybe not- I wish we could at least plan for a positive outcome with contingency plans in place- if it all goes south we've at least tried to make something work- I'm sure others will disagree- and that's ok too- we are all doing the best we can with what we have. :)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: great answers - you and I seem to be a lot alike


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Date Posted: 22:56:03 08/22/20 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Looks like multiple states in NE have low gathering numbers (CT, MA, RI) Maybe there is a chance that another state might be able to take on Oireachtas but you have to understand, we are most certainly not the only group looking for a new venue. Doubtful that this rabbit will come from the hat.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I expect there will be some increases due to the hordes of college students currently descending on Massachusetts, many of whom are disregarding calls for them not to host large parties. I'd like to be wrong about this but I don't think it's likely that we'll have a NEO in 2020. It's sad because if everyone would just comply with the Covid guidelines for a few weeks we could knock this virus down.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don't think we will have the O we are used to.


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Date Posted: 05:32:52 08/28/20 Fri

I think we will find a venue, but won't have teams- may not have trads- won't have award ceremonies as we are used to. It won't have the same feel as before, but that's to be expected in the year of Covid-19.

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[> Subject: Any update on the New England venue? Now Midwest is looking for new venue.


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Date Posted: 11:47:21 08/28/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: I wish parents could get at least a "we are still looking" update


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Date Posted: 06:44:15 08/29/20 Sat

and let all of us know how the committee is thinking creatively to get this done in this unprecedented situation -example: it may be that they need to book 2 venues and split the comps by ages- using hotels in the same city- using less space at each location. Particularly if they aren't planning to have a large in person awards ceremony it may make sense. They probably need to look in a state with minimal quarantine guidelines for the rest of NE - in other words, their focus probably needs to be in NH- or perhaps, they hold the NERO in a venue in the mid-atlantic -if that is allowed. Not ideal, but it's better than no O.

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[> [> [> Subject: And maybe push the date to later in the winter as another option if venues are hard to come by in November.


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[> [> [> [> Subject: New venue


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Date Posted: 07:29:01 08/29/20 Sat

Midwest is looking for a new venue? I hadn’t heard that...

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Sigh, they are. The Chicago metro area has strict Covid guidelines and won't approve the Oireachtas. The committee is in Indianapolis this weekend to see if that will be an option.


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Is Mid-West the same or different from Mid-America?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The same.


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