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Subject: Not sure but...


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Date Posted: 20:14:46 08/22/20 Sat
In reply to: Fred. 's message, "New author here (not the AP) - I appreciate the intelligence and cohesiveness of your viewpoint. You aren't demanding and moaning - so thank you for that. Question inside:" on 13:09:15 08/22/20 Sat

I guess it depends on how the committee chooses to manage the event- part of the requirement for attendance could be proof of a negative Covid-19 test (assuming test availability is robust in November- this would have to be part of the discussion) and, possibly, even a "day of" screening tool (temp checks at ballroom location/symptom report).

More volunteers than normal would be needed in general to wrangle people particularly in this scenario. A little off topic, but I hope the committee asks for help throughout the region with this - there are probably a lot of people that would volunteer in order to get this off the ground.

In my area, a positive test (not just being symptomatic) as well as known close contact (considered being within 6ft of a Covid-19 positive person for more than 15 min) are flags to quarantine.

The sad fact is that the turnaround time for most Covid-19 testing is anywhere from 2-3 days - and that is being pretty generous.

IF a Covid-19 negative test is the starting point, the likelihood of having a positive test come back in the midst of a 2-3 day event is highly unlikely -though there could certainly be the potential for contact tracing needed afterwards.

So that aside. Say there Is a positive test connected to an attendee...Hopefully the committee will use a cohorting approach (absolutely doable if numbers are restricted and movement is restricted/monitored during the day- think of it as treating the O like a school day in the 2020-2021 school year - (sigh)). Using this method you can dramatically limit the number of people affected. Would it stink to be affected- absolutely. But it would need to be something that is laid out as a "what if" scenario in communication to parents before fees are paid.

As you mentioned, the facility guidelines in the state where it is held would define what spaces would need to be shut down/cleaned and that could impact scheduling significantly. If we hold it in a state that requires a 48 hour shut down for the full facility - well, that's a real problem as you mentioned...and a full stop. Maybe try to avoid that state altogether in terms of planning. I'm not well versed in facility regs in all the NE states- that would require some fact finding.

As for the event running without enough attendees...it could happen, for many reasons - health concerns And financial concerns particularly because with fewer attendees, the cost will likely be higher per dancer. I would imagine TCs could gather intel from their schools as to who would and would not choose to attend based on guidelines presented to the families as to expected protocols and "what if" scenarios.

Once the committee has a general number of expected attendees, they could then make a general decision as to whether or not it is even in the ballpark of being a break even event -and if it is- they should request registration fees that would be refunded if event is cancelled due to statewide cancellation (as I believe this would relieve them of their contractual obligations).

It would also probably be a good idea to allow late registrations this year, as people may be more inclined to go if positivity rates remain low into the fall, though there still needs to be a capped number of attendees based on facility and scheduling capacities.

Again....The committee would need to be very specific about the what-ifs - and particularly about what would happen if a person tests positive for Covid-19 (during the event or afterwards) while also including the facility/state guidelines for full closure or shut-down of event. Waivers regarding agreement to same should be signed and returned with payment.


This could certainly affect attendance rates. But everyone would know what to expect..."if this, then that"...and with clear communication, we can all conduct a viable personal risk assessment before we choose to go (and pay).

All this to say - It is more than likely the environment around us may shut this all down closer to the date - and it should be shut down if the community positivity rates start climbing. And, in addition, we know we live in a region that won't hesitate to shut it ALL down (thankful for this). I think we will get a feel for how far the planning should go once schools are open for a couple of weeks- if things are spiraling out of control...well, that's the answer, I suppose.

Maybe we should just lose hope- but maybe not- I wish we could at least plan for a positive outcome with contingency plans in place- if it all goes south we've at least tried to make something work- I'm sure others will disagree- and that's ok too- we are all doing the best we can with what we have. :)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: great answers - you and I seem to be a lot alike


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Date Posted: 22:56:03 08/22/20 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Looks like multiple states in NE have low gathering numbers (CT, MA, RI) Maybe there is a chance that another state might be able to take on Oireachtas but you have to understand, we are most certainly not the only group looking for a new venue. Doubtful that this rabbit will come from the hat.


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Date Posted: 11:33:02 08/27/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I expect there will be some increases due to the hordes of college students currently descending on Massachusetts, many of whom are disregarding calls for them not to host large parties. I'd like to be wrong about this but I don't think it's likely that we'll have a NEO in 2020. It's sad because if everyone would just comply with the Covid guidelines for a few weeks we could knock this virus down.


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Date Posted: 16:25:10 08/27/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don't think we will have the O we are used to.


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Date Posted: 05:32:52 08/28/20 Fri

I think we will find a venue, but won't have teams- may not have trads- won't have award ceremonies as we are used to. It won't have the same feel as before, but that's to be expected in the year of Covid-19.

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