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Subject: The feis was moved to Lancaster
Author: Pennsylvania	[ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:50:29 11/10/20 Tue In reply to: DM 's message, "MCGough Feis" on 13:17:44 11/03/20 Tue [ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: MA and CT are on PA travel ban.
Author: no bueno [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:33:02 11/10/20 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: It's not a ban. Only an advisory. Like most states outside of NE, travel bans and penalties aren't mandated.
Author: It's online [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:19:58 11/10/20 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I thought the feis banned dancers from states on the travel advisory list.
Author: Didn’t they? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:08:35 11/10/20 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I think it may just be an advisory if you look at the letter of the law
Author: ~ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:15:16 11/11/20 Wed but I feel very uncomfortable going into a state that has clearly asked me not to go there and, adding to that, I'm coming from a state that actually has quarantine restrictions if I go to PA. Not for us this time - hoping that the Murray Feis goes on without these restrictions. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: It may be a STATE advisory, but the FEIS said they would BAN dancers residing in those states.
Author: Didn’t they? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:35:05 11/12/20 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Will be interesting to see if that's the case.
Author: $ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:29:40 11/12/20 Thu I don't think they deleted entries of people that were "banned" from dancing in NJ- they may be relying solely on self-report. No way they could turn it around for this recent move to PA and include those kids too. Honor system, probably. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: The feis is refunding dancers from states on quarantine list.
Author: Yep. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:13:06 11/10/20 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Is Ma on PA's quarantine list?
Author: curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:30:02 11/13/20 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes.
Author: It is. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:03:32 11/14/20 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I see a few MA dancers in the results???
Author: How?? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:46:54 11/14/20 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It looks there was an honor system that allowed dancers to attend from banned states to the original location.

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Date Posted: 15:32:46 11/14/20 Sat

The states that were unable to travel into NJ were never removed.

I don't think we should anticipate that feiseanna will remove dancers-even if they imply they will.

The whole country is pretty much on fire at this point, anyway- if we are feising, we are taking a chance- there really are only a few locations in the US that can say they are "safe".

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Basically, if you are feising right now you have decided your family's health matters less than your child's chance to win a trophy.
Author: fact [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:40:59 11/14/20 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Are you a hypocrite or risk-averse doomsday prepper who is not going to work or school? Your risk is higher going to Price Chopper than it is going to a 200 person capped feis.
Author: GFY [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:17:37 11/14/20 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Not the AP, but my work won't allow people in the office and my dd's school won't move to in-person learning because we're all safer at home. Stop comparing grocery shopping for necessities to a dance competition
Author: So yeah, not feising [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:02:31 11/15/20 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Groceries are a necessity. I can WFH with my job. Feising is quite definitely not a necessity. It's slightly alarming that you don't know that.
Author: fact [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:16:15 11/15/20 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The risk is at parity regardless of rationale. We engage in work and school remotely too. Yet I’d rather skip mingling at Price Chopper and have my groceries delivered before and after a feis. So you see, our risk tolerance is comparable. :)
Author: GFY [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:02:56 11/16/20 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: There is no parity here. Not sure why you keep referring to Price Chopper; their stores are disgusting and I would never enter one. Grocery shopping is a necessity. Working is a necessity. Feising is a frivolous and risky choice during a worsening pandemic.
Author: let's stick to facts [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:22:19 11/17/20 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That’s your opinion and who are you but someone who has decided that his/her opinion matters. I haven’t grocery shopped in months (there is nothing that cannot be delivered) and I work from home. If I never set foot in a store (Price Chopper or alt) and you never set foot in a feis location then why do you care that I was at a feis? Our paths will never cross and I can live with that.

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GFY
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Date Posted: 19:15:12 11/17/20 Tue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don't know why you can't understand that grocery shopping falls under category of essential activities whereas feising is both frivolous and completely unnecessary. You are the kind of person responsible for the spread of Covid. I am fortunate in that I will probably never cross paths with you during Covid, but think of all the people who you could put at risk with your selfishness.

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disgusted
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Date Posted: 17:56:24 11/20/20 Fri

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Let me try and break it down for you in smaller words. While you are going out shopping for “essentials” we are at home using delivery services. That is where you have chosen to assume risk and I have not. When we attend a feis with protocols we are tested within hours of returning home. Are you getting tested every time you come home from Price Chopper?! I don’t think so. ;) We have a better read on our status and gauge of our “risk” at any given time than you do.

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Date Posted: 09:40:55 11/23/20 Mon

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don’t understand MA was banned in NJ too. MCGough Academy should have removed dancers that were on the travel advisory list like they said they would. Sweetest Feis on Earth and Hershey Feis did. Heritage did. No reason why McGough shouldn’t.
Author: That is messed up [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:07:52 11/14/20 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Apparently, McGough did not remove dancers on the travel advisory list like they said they would.
Author: Not Right [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:13:01 11/14/20 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: While I agree that McGough should have removed these entries, I also think it reflects poorly on those that did attend from a "banned" state - who have to think that rules don't apply to them. This it-wont-be-me mentality is a part of why infections are skyrocketing.
Author: DM [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:06:24 11/15/20 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You have no way of knowing if they adhered to 14 day quarantine. With many schools and jobs on remote, very easy to do. Our dance school provides zoom classes for those on quarantine
Author: Never assume [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:34:31 11/15/20 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Actually you can for the most part assume for two reasons, first being that no one correctly quarantines. Quarantining for travel means no one IN THE HOUSEHOLD can leave for any reason for two weeks. No grocery trips, no picking up takeout, no walks on public beaches. Secondly, all you need to do is look at
Author: DM [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:56:26 11/16/20 Mon schools social media to see that several of these dancers were in class, at feis, or out and about in the 14 days prior. So no assuming there. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Actually I blame McGough. If they didn't contact people offering a refund and telling them not to come, then they were a bit disingenuous expecting that people would simply stay home. I heard they didn't offer refunds unless you contacted them to expressly ask for it.
Author: they should have done better [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:18:01 11/15/20 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I blame McGough too.
Author: DM [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:26:33 11/15/20 Sun Heritage, Hershey, Sweetest Feis all refunded people and told them they were not allowed to come, if their state was on the travel advisory list. People had no choice in the matter. That is what McGough should have done, especially since that is what they said they were going to do as an additional precaution. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Only if you ask I think.
Author: j [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:00:14 11/13/20 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]