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Subject: Taken aback that there is about to be an "invitational" feis to help the region's dancers prepare for nationals that includes every state in the region BUT CT and RI. That doesn't seem in the spirit of an "invitational." And why would the region allow such an exclusionary act? It doesn't feel like the spirit of regional support of all dancers who are looking for feis experience. It just feels kind of bad.


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Date Posted: 20:08:32 05/14/21 Fri


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[> Subject: I haven't heard of this. I've seen invitationals during the pandemic that included only 3-4 schools in order to keep numbers down, but never heard of a 4-state invitational. Which school is sponsoring it? Curious since I am in MA and have seen nothing saying RI & CT are excluded from any feis.


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Date Posted: 06:53:44 05/15/21 Sat


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[> [> Subject: O'Shea Chaplin is hosting, June 26th. Announced on Facebook. Invitational for champs dancers going to Phoenix from the 4 states mentioned


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Date Posted: 18:54:04 05/15/21 Sat


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[> Subject: It’s a matter of numbers. The feis doesn’t count towards advancement. And the place they are having it can only hold a certain number of people. It’s an invitational feis. Nothing wrong with it. If people continue to tear apart the logistics of schools trying to provide dancing opportunities then why are they going to even bother trying to arrange them.


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Date Posted: 07:00:51 05/15/21 Sat


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[> Subject: I was confused why the 2 states were excluded. But in the same vein, there are ppl in NH and other NE states that weren't allowed to go to Feis's in NY & NJ (for example), so I don't see the big deal. I am interested how it can be open to EVERY other school. Maybe it is only a few schools? I know it's just preliminary and open. But fwiw - everyone is trying and being kind is important right now. There are & have been other invitationals. It is what it is!


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Be nice - applauding anyone's efforts to get NE going!
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Date Posted: 08:35:20 05/15/21 Sat


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[> Subject: Invitationals have been happening all year. Not concerned.


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Date Posted: 08:51:29 05/15/21 Sat

Maybe if there weren't so many Feiseanna happening in May or June I'd feel differently- but there are so many opportunities opening up daily that I don't feel like my DD is missing out at all. Let all that can dance, dance! :)

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[> Subject: Yes, well there is the letter of an invitational and there is the spirit of one. Thus far invitationals have been specific schools invited. In this case it is EVERY dancer in four states, and sorry for those two who aren't invited. How can they simultaneously say "we don't have space," but then invited every single open and prelim dancer from four states? How will they have room for alll of them. So, yes, maybe the letter of it was followed, but certainly not the spirit of it.


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Date Posted: 13:06:06 05/15/21 Sat


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[> [> Subject: 1 school in Vt and one in ME. Being held in Nh with 3 schools and hosted by a MA school.


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Not all will get in. There are still limits on numbers
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Date Posted: 13:15:33 05/15/21 Sat


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[> [> [> Subject: Per their FB page: "championship dancers from Massachusetts, Maine , New Hampshire and Vermont that are going to Nationals!" Sounds a little bigger than your description. I think it is just bad optics. "We are holding an invitational for all NER dancers going to nationals except those from CT and RI."


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Date Posted: 14:33:46 05/15/21 Sat


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[> [> [> [> Subject: full wording: "We are going to host an invitational feis for prelim and open championship dancers from Massachusetts, Maine , New Hampshire and Vermont that are going to Nationals !" That's a lot of dancers. No language about caps


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Date Posted: 14:37:00 05/15/21 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: My intent was to state that there are only 5 schools outside of MA attending. There are definitely caps as they can only admit a limited number of persons into the studio at a time. It's a dance studio, not a convention hall.


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[> Subject: An invitational is just that—by invitation. Ask your school to host one.


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[> [> Subject: Unless you are from the host school, your school did not host one either, which means you too are benefiting from the labor of others. So not sure your horse should be as high as it is. You should climb down from it. Not a good look for you.


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Snowflake language is so passé. Yawn.
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[> [> [> Subject: I'm not the one whining about exclusions. It's been a year of challenges, schools can do what they can do. No one is going to die if they miss an opportunity to dance. Let's act like adults--crying and criticizing an invitational event is not a good look.


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Is using "Karen" a better option?
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[> [> Subject: Unless you are from the host school, your school did not host one either, which means you too are benefiting from the labor of others. So not sure your horse should be as high as it is. You should climb down from it. Not a good look for you.


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Snowflake language is so passé. Yawn.
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[> Subject: Clearly you are either in RI or CT. So get your school to host their own invitational for just your two states. If your school is not bothering to host a feis, don't whine about how those who are willing to put in the work but have to limit attendance.


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Date Posted: 17:06:48 05/15/21 Sat


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[> Subject: What are you referring to? I have looked for this invitational and can't find it- does it have a name?


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dd
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Date Posted: 10:56:47 05/18/21 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Saw it on the O'Shea Chaplin facebook page


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HTH
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Date Posted: 19:24:50 05/18/21 Tue


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[> Subject: OSC also hosting a grades feis for every school and hosted 2 sets of grade exams in COVID. Stop complaining about what they ARENT doing and ask your school to pick up some slack.


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Thank you OSC
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Date Posted: 07:13:49 05/21/21 Fri


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[> [> Subject: EXACTLY. Thrilled they can hold something for these kids! Go OSC


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Not an OSC parent
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Date Posted: 17:10:40 05/21/21 Fri


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[> [> Subject: YES! This, a thousand times this! So tired of the people who aren't doing a thing and think they are somehow owed feising opportunities without contributing a single feis. I honestly think if your school doesn't host or co-host a feis you shouldn't even be allowed to feis at all.


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sick of the freeloaders
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Date Posted: 17:37:11 05/21/21 Fri


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[> [> [> Subject: LOL wow


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hahaha
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Date Posted: 13:39:28 05/23/21 Sun


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[> [> [> Subject: Ha ha ha. Not a single Harney kid would be allowed to feis then. The largest school in the region and clearly not holding their own. They don't offer any feises at all. *The PK feis doesn't count as Harney hosting a feis. Let's be real.


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Cmon
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Date Posted: 20:04:57 05/24/21 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Well they must have some reason they don't want to host. They usually do in non-covid times & certainly have the #'s re: parent volunteers to help out. But why pick on them? Plenty of schools haven't hosted. The ones who have are large and small. So funny ppl complaining when things are finally happening again. Can't pls everyone I guess.


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Just be glad there's something!
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Date Posted: 08:31:39 05/25/21 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Back in the day Harney used to host a couple feis - one back-to-back with the Harvest Feis, and i may be wrong but I think they originally hosted the ICC feis. Problem with being a big and good school is you have a lot of dancers at your own feis. People claimed bias and attendance dropped off, I would think that made hosting a feis financially unsupportable. They tried in the past, so I don't blame them.


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oldie
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Date Posted: 07:14:12 05/27/21 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Harney has paid their dues in the past with both the Harney feis and the ones they had at the ICC. There are schools that have never once hosted. They're coasting on the hard work of other schools.


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truth
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Date Posted: 19:41:18 05/27/21 Thu


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[> Subject: Cap is 250 so not every dancer in 4 states gets to attend. 1 champ group per age. Not splitting prelim from open. Truly champ practice. No parents allowed in


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Date Posted: 21:50:12 05/30/21 Sun


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[> Subject: We’ve never found much value in invitationals but it sounds like some of the appeal is practicing at Murray studios for stage floor/size. If your school doesn’t have at least one major stage-sized studio with proper lifted floors you may want to raise an eyebrow at your tuition bill.


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Date Posted: 07:57:28 06/05/21 Sat


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