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] Date Posted: 10:05:34 07/25/22 Mon In reply to: :( 's message, "They are leaving New England." on 05:08:18 07/25/22 Mon [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: but not confirmed [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:36:34 07/26/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Likely North Carolina | |
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Author: Dm [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:13:45 07/28/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They didn’t tell the families where they were moving. | |
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Author: ** [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:53:48 07/28/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They didn't even tell their dancers goodbye. No closure at all. | |
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Author: -- [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:13:20 07/28/22 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Wow cold. That’s awful! | |
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Author: DM [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:37:38 07/29/22 Fri The Irish dance world is a small one no matter where you’re relocating to. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: History repeating itself. | |
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Author: They did this before [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:54:31 07/29/22 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The TCS should be ashamed | |
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Author: Feel bad for dancers [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:11:49 07/29/22 Fri Closing their school with no notice to children/families. You don't relocate without planning it ahead of time. I hope all the dancers find a tc/school with more compassion and concern for their welfare. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You should be ashamed ! | |
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Author: I really tried to stay out of this but [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:14:48 07/30/22 Sat I can't believe what I am reading here! The Kenny Academy closing is absolutely a loss, for the region, for the kids, but it is also a huge loss for the Kennys. The letter on the 23rd being referred to here was not just a "sorry we're closed" note, it was long , detailed and very heart felt! Covid killed the Kenny Academy, it's that simple, and the families know that, they did not just up and decide to relocate. Please try to remember that you are slamming two people who have lost their business, income and home , and now it seems as a result of idle gossip, their reputation! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I feel sorry for anyone who loses a business but... | |
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Author: Should have been transparent with families [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:31:19 07/30/22 Sat You are correct that they didn't just up and decide to leave. Businesses don't go under overnight and people don't relocate overnight. This decision had to have been in the works for quite some time, and the families should not have been blindsided. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes they do! | |
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Author: Sad for everyone involved [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:34:32 07/30/22 Sat Business do go under overnight, all the time! If you have never been through it then good for you but I have, it's shocking and terrible and nobody wins. Also remember that classes are on summer break so it's understandable that people didn't get to say goodby , and you are assuming that they have already left Boston, which to the best of my knowledge is not the case, so the relocation has not been overnight. They worked to come up with a solution to keep the school open while they got back on their feet and it was rejected. Telling people they should be ashamed of themselves is a ridiculous thing to say to people who have just lost everything! Kindness is free, ya know! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: If kindness is free the Kenny's should have extended more. | |
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Author: They didn't handle this well. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:38:53 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They did | |
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Author: You don't know what you are talking about! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:51:22 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They handled it just fine for a situation that was not what they envisioned. The email was very detailed and heartfelt, and they didn't even owe that. Think about the Kennys for 2 seconds instead. They are human beings who suffered a huge financial loss from Covid. How many businesses have gone under? A lot! They had a solution, instead they got backlash. Probably backlash from the "strong willed" parents who always have demands and feel they are owed. Rumors are rumors. Please, be kind. | |
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Author: Please be kind [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:34:23 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Which is why the New England Teachers with visiting parents should check with their current families if the new families will add positivity to their school | |
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Author: Keep your schools positive, healthy, strong [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:56:13 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But maybe had they shared their "plan" prior to closing the school and not in the e-mail announcing the school closure, it would have been acceptable The backlash was that there were rumors from other TC's and parents received no clarification or were told of the "plan" when asked what their plan was. They were not forthcoming with info | |
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Author: ... [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:40:48 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The last thing the Kennys wanted to do was to close their MA school | |
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Author: Your criticism is misdirected [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:58:48 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Entitled, overstepping parents who have been at multiple schools and exhibited this exact behavior with other TCs and families is the history that is repeating itself here | |
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Author: A few bad apples [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:16:34 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: from the letter I saw, they were hiring more TCs and teaching part time, but the parents thought they could say no to that so they closed instead | |
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Author: me [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:34:58 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: On 7/16, we got an email saying Billy Petrocelli had passed his TCRG and could teach w/o the Kennys present. On 7/23 we got an email saying the school closed. They said they'd hoped to have Billy and Breda teach and that the Kennys would be relocating but would take turns teaching part-time, but that responses to the announcement re Billy indicated that plan wouldn't be accepted. That was confusing. We had no idea what was going on. Why would we choose a ban and sudden abandonment of our kids? | |
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Author: Heartless treatment of children [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:25:16 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: "The parents thought they could say no." It's almost as if parents--who are paying for a service--should be so bold as to assume they might have any say in the service they are paying for. Imagine that! If I were paying for my dancer to attend a school with a particular TC and then was told, "guess what, it is now going to be a different TC," I might also "think I could say no." | |
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Author: ---- [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:21:11 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: What is it you think they should have done? | |
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Author: ?? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:09:11 07/30/22 Sat Of course the parents had a choice to reject the plan to keep the school open, so they did, and now the school is closed! What are you saying, I wonder could you loan them your magic wand?? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I'm saying isn't it curious that they thought they could come up with HUGE changes and then just spring it on the parents and then act all shocked when their proposal was not created with cheers and balloons and champagne. What did they THINK was going to happen? | |
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Author: ---- [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:25:02 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Businesses hire new staff all the time. Why is this any different? Why are they under a microscope? Breda has always been on staff, and the students were going to be so lucky to have 4 wonderful teachers instead of 3. The only plan was to add a new teacher and parents flipped out and gave them abuse. This is Irish Dance, a wonderful sport, but parents need to take a step back, take a deep breath. | |
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Author: Please be kind [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:44:15 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: No one is saying they should not have closed the school, in the face of a rejected plan. It is the way in which it was done that people seem to be most upset with. There is a difference. | |
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Author: Difference [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:37:29 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: There was no plan presented and rejected. All we were told was that Billy was joining the school as a TCRG and would be able to teach without the Kennys present. That is the important fact: we were not told about any plan. | |
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Author: Dm [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:42:17 07/30/22 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Again , what do you mean by the "way" they did it? | |
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Author: Somebody needs to defend the Kennys, they are really nice people . [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:12:31 07/30/22 Sat The school is out for summer, so no in person opportunity, and they first offered a solution, which again was rejected! Have you ever been in extreme financial difficulty? I have and let me tell you every day you get up hoping that today is the day that things will turn around, you hold out until the very end!! It's also frightening and disorientating and a huge loss of dignity! You seem to be suggesting that they should have had no privacy! The reality is that its very difficult to run a school without a roof over your head, and it really makes me sad that that has to be said. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They did NOT offer a solution. That is the key point. The first email said Billy would be teaching as a TCRG, and a few days later, they closed the school. I don't know why people are acting as if it was communicated that the school might close and there was some offer rejected. That is completely inaccurate. There was poor communication that resulted in children hurting. | |
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Author: Truth [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:01:49 07/30/22 Sat The [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: There was no problem to solve, there was going to be a new teacher on staff. How does this need a solution? Parents made it a problem. I also think some children (and adult dancers) are sad, but it's the parents that are reacting the most. The Kennys are such nice people. | |
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Author: be kind [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:48:46 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Are you literally saying that the parents *caused* them to close their school? They are the victims here? Also how can you in one breath say they had extreme financial exigencies, and in the other say "there was no problem to solve"? Be rational. | |
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Author: Wow [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:01:43 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don't blame the Kennys for making a decision to close their school based on the unwarranted and harsh feedback they received about expanding their staff and school size. | |
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Author: Other TC's and rational parents understand this [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:11:35 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The problem to be solved was that the school might close, and none of us knew about that. If we had known, we would have found ways to help. I don’t know any Kenny parents who were upset about Billy joining. Lots of families are going to his new school. I just wish they had found a way to say goodbye to their students. | |
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Author: ABCD [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:02:06 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: What is the name of Billy’s new school? | |
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Author: please [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:34:57 08/02/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Petrocelli Academy | |
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Author: very excited! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:27:08 08/02/22 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Now you see how this type of attitude and poor reaction created a situation where the Kennys had to make a good decision for their school. If the families are not supportive and actively work against the teachers, it is not good for anyone | |
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Author: Inevitable outcome [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:25:32 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Expressing that you wish they had taken the time to say goodbye to the students is “a bad attitude” and “working against the TCs”? I think perhaps you protest too much. Looking a little guilty there, my friend. Yiu are very much not helping to make them look better. My guess is that they hope you stop “defending” them soon. | |
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Author: Hmmmm [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:38:03 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The parents should examine their actions and behaviors. The Kennys did in my opinion act properly and made a good decision for their school. | |
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Author: I support the Kennys [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:46:49 07/31/22 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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