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Date Posted: 12:39:09 08/29/07 Wed
Author: DW
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 198.89.160.22
Subject: I'm waiting for the press to raise an issue
In reply to: Pat & Selena 's message, "Re: My feelings on this are very dark......" on 22:54:48 08/28/07 Tue

When is someone going to say the obvious ...that any person raised in the US in this day who gets off on fighting dogs is a person with serious psychiatric issues. (In the old days we'd call them evil but the press rarely uses the E word anymore.) In even older times, of course, this wouldn't be a societal issue at all because it would be acceptable within the viewpoints of the age.

*sigh* We can go on about other times, other cultures and how his headspace is obviously living in one of those 'other cultures' ....which gets right back to him showing signs of pyschiatric disorder in that he never integrated with the current common reality, but instead chose to live in one where cruelty is fun. (Wait ... that's too periously close to all of the culture of organized sports so they won't touch it.)

I listed to a tape on the Dali Lama. There was a story about a bunch of Tibetan monks visiting France and being driven in bus. A bee flew in an the driver killed it without much of a thought. It bothered the monks but many in the US would consider their reaction a little wussy and silly. (Not me, not all.)

Well so if I factor in societal differences ... I'm still left with a couple of things.

1. Dog fighting is illegal and Vick had so very much to lose that you'd think he'd steer clear of it. (Again, hints of some sort of emotional or psychological shortcomings in that he can't make good choices.)

2. In this society, in this time, cruelty of the sort he engaged in is aberrant and he knew this for he hid his activities.

I don't like to see mental illness used as a method of shaming people and I certainly don't want it used as an excuse, but I really think a public (media level) discussion of aberrant behavior needs to be brought in.

There is something fundamentally wrong with him as a human being. The sooner that truth gets spoken, the sooner the gadflies will stop clustering around him. Normal athletes who are out of control might abuse drugs, drink too much, sleep around too much, thow money around. Killing animals, abusing women (as other problem atheletes have done)... that's beyond normal.

These violent, anti-social people should be publically shunned to prevent other young kids from thinking that behavior is in any way acceptable or excuseable. Yes, they need treatment of some sort, but punishment should not be ruled out just because they can grab onto some tactic that make their horrendous behavior seem almost reasonable. (We should not let our own decency and compassion make us weak to the point we make excuses for their atrocities. Bad people should not be rewarded nor their crimes forgotten.)

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