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Subject: Re: MasterGuard Author: hack_mole (Concerned) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 02/17/07 4:04pm In reply to: 's message, "MasterGuard" on 04/25/04 8:48am I went to the MasterGuard presentation on Thursday. The rep is coming over tonite. I don't have his number so I can cancel, but here is what I found out before he gets here. 95% of the presentation is true. Some info is omitted like the fact that almost 5% of the photo smoke detectors failed and that firefighters recommend a combination of detectors on each floor. Also, I found out from this forum that the smoke detectors are made from Gentex. Well, my next door neighbor works for Gentex and confirmed that the model MasterGuard is selling is one of theirs (Gentex holds the patent on photoelectric). It's just not their current version. He said he could get one for about $50-$80. He laughed at the bat and said just to buy my son a louisville slugger. It then has more uses. Anyway, my $.02 I think the education is needed, but paying 6-7 times the price for a product is a ripoff. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: MasterGuard Author: Someone Who Knows [Edit] Date Posted: 02/23/07 11:25am >Just wanted to get back to the people in this forum. To answer the question about the electronic heat detector as to availability it is not something readily available yet, but if you wanted to send me an e-mail, or call me I can get you more information about it. As far as the smoke detectors to use, GE is the best available for a stand alone battery powered unit. If you are using them in a system with a control panel, there are several units that work just as good, and none of them are $350 a piece. Also in regards to using different types of alarms per floor, always trust photoelectric, with the light scattering principle instead of photobeam principle, much more reliable, and heat detectors as a combination. Never rely on an ionazation type detector for anything. Even in a flaming ignition fire, which is what they are really designed to detect, they still have a documented 20% probability of a fatality due to the failure of that alarm. For others to contact me, please call my new number of 507-205-4144. If I don't answer leave me a message and I will gladly return your call.

[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard Author: someone else in the know [Edit] Date Posted: 05/ 2/07 2:15pm Interesting that "someone who knows" repeats the exact same thing that describes Masterguard smoke detectors. He almost quotes from the description of their detectors and Firefighter attested statements yet contradict hisself by saying don't trust them or that you can get the exact same thing from another company (yea, right! Masterguard is the OEM). The thing that sold me was the reliability to detect all types of smoke from a wide variety of fires and that of the hospitals I visited, all had Masterguard smoke detectors. >>Just wanted to get back to the people in this forum. >To answer the question about the electronic heat >detector as to availability it is not something >readily available yet, but if you wanted to send me an >e-mail, or call me I can get you more information >about it. > >As far as the smoke detectors to use, GE is the best >available for a stand alone battery powered unit. If >you are using them in a system with a control panel, >there are several units that work just as good, and >none of them are $350 a piece. > >Also in regards to using different types of alarms per >floor, always trust photoelectric, with the light >scattering principle instead of photobeam principle, >much more reliable, and heat detectors as a >combination. Never rely on an ionazation type detector >for anything. Even in a flaming ignition fire, which >is what they are really designed to detect, they still >have a documented 20% probability of a fatality due to >the failure of that alarm. > >For others to contact me, please call my new number of >507-205-4144. If I don't answer leave me a message and >I will gladly return your call.