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Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Lou
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Date Posted: 07/19/05 8:36pm
In reply to: 's message, "MasterGuard" on 04/25/04 8:48am

Tonight my husband and two other couples and myself attended a local fire safety meeting presented by MasterGuard. After a nice dinner at a local restaurant we listened to the sales rep explain their product versus what we currently have in our home. In addition to the video (which was informative) the final screen asked if anyone was interested in becoming a tele-marketer for their company. I flag arose. Towards the end of the presentation the sales rep explained how great their product is and why we should have one in our home. He slid into asking us to fill out the card to mark a date and time that would be convenient for an inhouse consultation. Quite interesting enough I asked how much a unit costs. The rep said, I'm sorry I can't tell you. I continued to pry and ask questions. The rep got extremely agitated and said, I can't believe you are questioning the product, etc. I'm tongue tied. Several seniors were sitting in the room and agreed with me. I could tell he was frustrated by my questions. Needless to say, he walked away from our table. Our group of friends left the meeting before the "Door Prizes" and asked not to be called upon again.

Watch out! I am glad to hear there are others with my same suspicions.

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[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 12/ 4/05 6:18pm

By chance I stumbled upon these articles during a thesis on residential smoke/ fire detection systems in a home. After reading the post I quickly looked into this company, which installs 1000s of alarms every week and found out what a GREAT company it is and what GREAT products they have. After talking to one of their reps I did a quick cost analysis of what I used to have in my home and what I purchased from a sales man from Michigan. I could not believe the MasterGuard alarms were less expensive in the long run and of much better quality. Wow a couple negative posts from silly people compared to the 1000s of alarms installed every week -- By the way, I also protected my daughter and son, because they deserved the best!
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Consumer Advocate
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Date Posted: 12/ 5/05 9:48am

Yes, I too went to one of the meetings. I believe these detectors are probably the best, but I can't find evidence to prove it! I can find evidence that the very same manufacturer makes another identical model under the Responsive label that can be bought for about $80. Now I don't get a fish dinner with it, but saving $250 per detector is pretty serious.

Of course your going say "my family's safety is worth it!" Did it strike you odd that the Masterguard agent quickly mounted all your detectors for you at that moment you said yes when he was in your house? I'll tell you, it was to keep you from getting cold feet!

I can buy them online and then I can call my local fire department and tip one of the guys "after hours" $100 for telling me where I should put them. I bet you, he'll grab your drill and screwdriver, and do it for you in less than 20 minutes. They deserve whatever you pay them far more than the Masterguard agent does!!!

Now the problem with the whole thing is that the dinner I went to was filled primarily with retired citizens. It's pretty easy to instill fear in our older citizens. Sure, some are very well off financially, but most can't afford to be ripped off! The $250 difference per detector, times how-ever-many are suggested, translates to a huge rip-off!!! Oh, and I'll buy my own Kidde Carbon Monoxide detector and Fire Extinguisher (laid on its side, of course)! Just thank them for the meal!

If you bought their deal, you need to be happy with it! Whether it's Masterguard or somebody else, there will always be another scam out there! When anybody asks you to buy "now," always say you're going to wait and then walk to the door. I bet the deal gets better at the door! Unless you're armed with the right information up front, patience and the power of a good proper search on the internet is your best weapon!

Also, if you like your friends, don't put their names on anybodys' list!!!
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 03/ 7/07 11:16pm

>Yes, I too went to one of the meetings. I believe
>these detectors are probably the best, but I can't
>find evidence to prove it! I can find evidence that
>the very same manufacturer makes another identical
>model under the Responsive label that can be bought
>for about $80. Now I don't get a fish dinner with it,
>but saving $250 per detector is pretty serious.
>
>Of course your going say "my family's safety is worth
>it!" Did it strike you odd that the Masterguard agent
>quickly mounted all your detectors for you at that
>moment you said yes when he was in your house? I'll
>tell you, it was to keep you from getting cold feet!
>
>I can buy them online and then I can call my local
>fire department and tip one of the guys "after hours"
>$100 for telling me where I should put them. I bet
>you, he'll grab your drill and screwdriver, and do it
>for you in less than 20 minutes. They deserve
>whatever you pay them far more than the Masterguard
>agent does!!!
>
>Now the problem with the whole thing is that the
>dinner I went to was filled primarily with retired
>citizens. It's pretty easy to instill fear in our
>older citizens. Sure, some are very well off
>financially, but most can't afford to be ripped off!
>The $250 difference per detector, times how-ever-many
>are suggested, translates to a huge rip-off!!! Oh,
>and I'll buy my own Kidde Carbon Monoxide detector and
>Fire Extinguisher (laid on its side, of course)! Just
>thank them for the meal!
>
>If you bought their deal, you need to be happy with
>it! Whether it's Masterguard or somebody else, there
>will always be another scam out there! When anybody
>asks you to buy "now," always say you're going to wait
>and then walk to the door. I bet the deal gets better
>at the door! Unless you're armed with the right
>information up front, patience and the power of a good
>proper search on the internet is your best weapon!
>
>Also, if you like your friends, don't put their names
>on anybodys' list!!!
Let me put a stop to this ridiculas bickering...First of all, I do not know where you saw the responsive alarm for $80.00 probably on E-bay. I am a responsive dealer in nc and we, just like every other dealer, sell the alarms for $278.00 each. We educate the public, fire departments, schools, and local civic organizations about fire safety(at no charge) We teach them far more than they have ever learned from local fire departments,schools,our federal government, You say you attended the dinner? You learned something in that dinner that could save you or your family's life, and got a free dinner in the process, how much is that worth to you??? If YOU....decided that learning more about a product (that since 1971 has not had a fatality much less a serious injury from a fire where it is installed) then that decision was made on your own. When a fire safety advisor goes into someones home it is because they were invited. If you buy from them it is because you decided to buy. we do not pressure sale anyone, now knowing what this product can do (save your life) I am very frustrated and disappointed when I enter someones home and they honestly cannot afford it. But I have either financed their system myself or given them one or two units out of compassion. But you probably wont see those things mentioned here. We donate money to the shriners burn institute, we donate money to the fallen firemens fund, we donate money to the Firemens education fund. So not only are you buying a quality alarm(that is going to save your life) you are helping to fund continued education about the very back bone of the problem, which is an epidemic in this country, called FIRE.
By the way, as mentioned earlier on, this product has a 25 year warranty, a life time fire warranty, and yea a level one, full protection system costs between $1200.00-$3000.00 depending on the layout and size of your home.
Now folks, how much do you pay a year for fire insurance?( to protect your furniture and other material things) Well here in NC I pay $600.00 a year/in 25 years that is $15,000.00. So what your telling me is your furniture and other belongings is worth more than your life? I think what we have here is a litttle problem with priorities. Get your priorities straight and then come back here and post something a little more on the mature side.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Cornville Mom ("just like every other dealer $278 each??)
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Date Posted: 08/21/08 2:09pm

Unfortunately that is NOT true!! If it were then why are there so many complaints regarding what people were quoted? We were 'persuaded' by a cousin who is an authorized dealer to get into the MasterGuard business. We put our last savings from the sale of our home into it at a cost of $20,000. We got all the stuff, the alarms, training materials, videos, we even gave dinners to sell them. The agent trained my husband to do this. We were given a price list of how much to sell them for at a cost of $400 each. And yes the dinner is designed as a scare tactic. My husband did not like the fact that he was scaring people into buying these alarms and after about 4 dinners (and little sales) he didn't want to do it anymore. MasterGuard says they have a buy back policy but his cousin only bought back at half price. We figured out he pocketed about $8,000 off of us. He bought the alarms and training materials from the company and then sold them to us. Now we are stuck with them. He told us if we sold all the units and needed more we would have to get them from him (which in turn he gets them from the company) see where I am going with this? A MLM. We were so brainwashed by the training and selling techniques we couldn't see it for what it was. If we always had to get the products from him and he in turn gets them from the company he will profit off of us. He also had another person he was doing this with and we found out later that that person also has all his alarms sitting in his garage because he can't sell them for $400 each. I wish I would have investigated it more before I handed over our savings. We have sold a few of the units on the internet but I was recently threatened by "a masterguard VP" that I was in violation of my contract and I was causing hard working agents/dealers to lose their customers and therefore I could be held liable for people cancelling their contracts if I did not stop selling them in the internet. So where does that leave me? I could only protect my home so much with the units....
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 01/24/07 11:57am

Spoken like a true Masterguard salesman!
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
minnesota
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Date Posted: 07/19/06 8:30am

I also went to one of these dinners. They came out to our home wanting to sell us the system for only $2800. Looked like a great system but that can buy a whole lot of other neccesities. So we told him we couldn't do it even though he could do a monthly payment plan. After he left I called one of our friends that went with us who told me she e-mailed me a story that one of our local news channels did about the company it is well worth reading and worth passing on. The story is on WCCO.com in the I-team reports it is from March 2,2006. People beware
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/06 11:58am

The International Fire Chief Association is giong to begin requiring Residential Fire Sprinklers (Heat detectors taht spray water...) in all new construction of homes....WHY? ...It's simple people because they WORK. Now go get a quote of that for your already established home, you're looking at a good amount of money. Why? It's SUPERIOR protection.

If you want to make this investment, don't let these forums fool you into beinga sucker...no one wants to be a sucker...

Should that fear stop you from protecting your family?

If you take 2,500 dollars and divide that by 25...that's 100 dollars a year to protect your family from fire...

If you do what the NFPA really recommends, you're going to spend about $280 to protect your home with store bought alarms, then..have to worry about replacing thsoe about every 5 years if not less in some cases. Do you vaccuum your smoke detector? Does your smoke detector tell u when it's dirty? What are the real benefits here...After doing this you'll spend about $1,400 to replace, etc your detectors. And they are not superior.

Fire protection is the last thing we should have to think about in our busy lifestyles. If you think about all the facts...this makes sense...I did a lot of study and research over the past 3 years.

I think that counts for something...you are not a sucker. People buy these for a reason. There is proof out there...ask to call a customer who's life has been saved. Would your smoke detector tell you if your furnace was heating up? No...but our heat detector DID.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 11/ 1/06 9:52pm

The crazy thing is there is no regulation of the internet and some people believe what is typed here. By the way the news on the MINN thing was your typical muck-racking reporting-- Did you read the rest of the paper that day-- the story about the two people who died in a home fireand had a cheap smoke alarm? I didn't think so. Matter of fact, when i called the news myself they appoligized for the story and pulled news about the family that died. and they apologized for the Masterguard story.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 11/ 1/06 9:55pm

Masterguard is a great company! Negative bias people. Every complaint on here is concerning price and or money. You are all more concerned about money then anything else. Good job guys and good luck with that
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 01/19/07 9:01pm

>There is no doubt my family is worth every penny to protect them from the dangers of a home fire. The prior message indicated those of us who are complaining about the costs of these products are fools. It's unfortunate that people like you who actually pay these ridiculous costs are the true fool. I don't think anyone questions the quality of this product. What people question is the ethics this company uses to sell it's product. Prying on the fears of people who CANNOT AFFORD $425 for each alarm, afraid if they don't buy it...a fire will take their family. This company could do so much good by simply making their product more affordable so more people could take advantage of them. Instead they price them so high, and prey on peoples fear and pocketbooks. Its SAD and unethical at best.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 06/28/07 11:41pm

Great companies do not have to rely on scare tactics and stay in your home for hours without leaving even after being asked to. Do NOT let these people in your home. We had to call the police to get them to leave!!!!
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 07/25/07 7:52pm

>Masterguard is a great company! Negative bias people.
>Every complaint on here is concerning price and or
>money. You are all more concerned about money then
>anything else. Good job guys and good luck with that

The reason people are negative about the price is because some of us (who would love to be able to afford these fire safety products) are fighting daily to put food on the table, and clothes on our kids. not all of us can afford an additional monthly payment. I do not doubt the quality of these products, i do doubt the sincerity of the company who claims to care about saving lives.....i guess only the lives of people who are above a certain tax bracket? electronics are cheaply made....they could sell them at a more affordable rate, and prove how much they care about MY family's safety.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 04/14/08 5:18pm

>Masterguard is a great company! Negative bias people.
>Every complaint on here is concerning price and or
>money. You are all more concerned about money then
>anything else. Good job guys and good luck with that
Why would they not tell me how much they cost?
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 04/13/07 9:08am

We got the sales pitch last night at our friend’s house. What my friend did not tell the salesman was that he is a fireman for our city. After the salesman left he told us about all the lies he told.

The masterguard salesman said that there is no point in networking the alarms. He said his product is so loud you could hear it in the basement bedrooms.

If you have $3500 to burn hire a commercial alarm installer. They can give you horn strobes, photoelectric heat and ionization all in one units. They can even install a duct alarm that will turn off the furnace/AC if it detects smoke/heat.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name (Amazed)
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Date Posted: 05/21/07 12:01pm

My husband and I had these alarms installed (next to our cheap store-bought ones)and then had a fire in our furnace room. Guess which alarm didn't go off? The store-bought one. Never heard a peep out of it, even though we had changed the batteries shortly beforehand. The Masterguard alarms alerted us, we both got out safely. Kind of hard to put a price on that. Seems to me fireman are good at putting fires out, not getting people out of a house before they succumb to smoke inhalation. I have alot of respect for firefighters, but like all people in all lines of work, it is a good idea to stick to what you know (putting out fires) instead of trying to discount what an expert in another field knows (in this case, alarms that save lives). As far as the alarms not being networked -- Usually, if one fails, they all fail.

Also, I don't know if the rep lied to you or not. I wasn't there. However, the Masterguard rep we boght from was very informative and his customer service was second to none.

>We got the sales pitch last night at our friend’s
>house. What my friend did not tell the salesman was
>that he is a fireman for our city. After the salesman
>left he told us about all the lies he told.
>
>The masterguard salesman said that there is no point
>in networking the alarms. He said his product is so
>loud you could hear it in the basement bedrooms.
>
>If you have $3500 to burn hire a commercial alarm
>installer. They can give you horn strobes,
>photoelectric heat and ionization all in one units.
>They can even install a duct alarm that will turn off
>the furnace/AC if it detects smoke/heat.
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Alan (Angry)
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Date Posted: 05/ 6/07 12:47pm

I just found out my parents got scammed by these jerks who sold them detectors they put next to the ones that came with their mobile home and charged them $2000 for the 7. You can go to any hardware store and get perfectly good ones for under $50. I am royally pissed --- my parents have got a lot better things to do with their money. Don't anyone else be taken in!
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 05/15/07 5:30pm

Most children value their parents more than that. You should be grateful that your parents made such a good decision to protect themselves with the BEST detectors you can get, all so they wouldn't have to become a serious burden to you if they got burned or lost their lives in a home fire.

If you could guarantee with 100% certainty that a fire was going to happen tomorrow night and that your parents or yourself would be seriously burned or lose a life, it wouldn't matter if the detectors cost $10,000, YOU WOULD WANT THEM!

There was one family a year or two ago who attended a Masterguard presentation but decided that they would think about it for a while before they made a decision. A fire occured in their home the very next week and they and their children needlessly lost their lives.

Also, concerning price, I'm sure you or someone you know wears eyeglasses. Why would you pay $350 for a pair of eyeglasses? You don't really think there is $350 worth of material in there do you? The reason people pay $350 for a pair of eyeglasses is because of what it gives them, vision! It's all about how much you value the thing in which you are investing. You get what you pay for and when you protect yourself and your family with Masterguard, you get something that's worth more than $350, you get something that is priceless my friend. I hope anyone who reads this will listen to reason and not be a tightwad when it comes to your and your family's lives.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 06/28/07 11:45pm

Why keep scaring people? If regular smoke detectors were that bad, we would see things on the news or in newspapers. It's not a big conspiracy to let Americans die in their sleep at night, unless it's because the scary salespeople who won't leave your house come back to set the fires...
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: 07/10/07 2:06pm

>Why keep scaring people? If regular smoke detectors
>were that bad, we would see things on the news or in
>newspapers. It's not a big conspiracy to let Americans
>die in their sleep at night, unless it's because the
>scary salespeople who won't leave your house come back
>to set the fires...

There HAS been MANY things on the news and in the papers over the past few years regarding the situations of regular smoke detectors not working. It's been the subject of several news programs, and there's a class action lawsuit going on now involving the makers of regualr smoke detectors. While I dont agree with Masterguard's salespeople's techniques, I do beleive in the product they are selling. UL and several others have tested them over and over, and they always perform EXACTLY as they are suppposed to.
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 09/22/07 3:47pm

It's such a shame that there are so many ignorant people in this country who can be scammed. How dumb do you have to be to see that these MasterGuard people are scamming you? I've seen their presentation, and it's the most obvious scam I've ever seen! Of course, I guess if you're dumb enough to fall for it in the first place, then you deserve what you get. They prey on people who don't bother to educate themselves about the topic before writing a huge check. The company might be unethical, but at least they're smarter than you suckers who buy into it!
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name (Very Happy)
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Date Posted: 10/16/07 6:12am

My husband and I went to a dinner and then WE BOUGHT the system. I WAS NOT pressured by our salesman. Only INFORMED. There were not any of this crap others are reporting. If you had a problem with your sales rep than report him to Master Guard. Every company has a few bad seeds. Don't let them spoil the bunch. Our sales rep A Mr. Anderson, was professional and very helpful. I did research all of the products online. As I was instructed to by our rep. As for the cost, I am retired and on a fixed income. The monthly payment was less than a carton of cigarettes. You will complain about those prices but will still buy them. I do too. But at least if I fall asleep with one lit I know my alarm system will wake me up and get out. Get your facts straight...
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Virginia K. Maitland (Very Happy)
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Date Posted: 10/18/07 7:10am

>My husband and I went to a dinner and then WE BOUGHT
>the system. I WAS NOT pressured by our salesman. Only
>INFORMED. There were not any of this crap others are
>reporting. If you had a problem with your sales rep
>than report him to Master Guard. Every company has a
>few bad seeds. Don't let them spoil the bunch. Our
>sales rep A Mr. Anderson, was professional and very
>helpful. I did research all of the products online. As
>I was instructed to by our rep. As for the cost, I am
>retired and on a fixed income. The monthly payment was
>less than a carton of cigarettes. You will complain
>about those prices but will still buy them. I do too.
>But at least if I fall asleep with one lit I know my
>alarm system will wake me up and get out. Get your
>facts straight...

OUR SALES REPS. NAME WAS HUNTER ANDERS NOT ANDERSON. MY MISTAKE. THANKS.
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 10/19/07 10:40am

This is one of the most insidious marketing schemes I have ever experienced. These alarms could EASILY be sold for much less, but they will never be marketed that way because, just like encyclopedias, avon, amway, kirby (and other high powered vacuums), while they may be marketed as superior products, and I will not argue their value, but the scheme is always the same:

-- NEVER tell the target customer the price until you have given the presentation and stressed the EXTREME value for their family or home, so they feel compelled to fork out the money.
-- ALWAYS try and get them to buy at the maximum retail price first, and then tell them the quantity or promotion price they qualify for only if they won't take that price.
-- ALWAYS make them feel extremely guilty that they are sacrificing the safety/well-being/child's education opportunities, or whatever if they do NOT purchase the product.
-- OFTEN they will then make a 'special call' to their 'manager' to qualify the customer for an even deeper RIGHT NOW discount - the manager may even, unbeknownst to the customer, be waiting outside in the car.
-- ALWAYS ask for several referrals, but PLEASE make sure to tell them not to tell their friends about the presentation, especially if they end up not buying. They don't want the referrals spoiled by hearing the outRAGEOUS prices before they can even make a presentation, and then have the referrals cancel their appointments!
-- ALWAYS withhold the gift they were promised until the absolutely extreme end of all negotiations, good or bad - AND, in the event that the customer is so frustrated after saying no 20 times that they forget about the gift, then the salesman might also forget about the gift.


Masterguard does all of these things (and did them with US) with the added insidious application of extreme guilt that one does not think their family is important enough for them to spend thousands of dollars, mostly to line the pockets of the presenting salesman with lucrative commissions. We were PROMISED that there would be NO PRESSURE to buy, but this guy would not LEAVE our house until we told him NO 10 different ways, refused to give referrals, but agreed NOT to call my brother who had an appointment the next evening for the same thing (my brother called me anyway and asked about it!! so i told him - he went through with it, and had the SAME experience but was not as nice as me)

DO YOUR HOMEWORK: There are several very good smoke alarm/fire detectors in local retail outlets that are much improved over what the Masterguard salesman will tell you is out there for less, and the better ones are still more expensive than the $19 models that the Masterguard salesman will tell you is out there. ALSO, there have been posted news articles online that, in some cases, side by side, the retail purchased alarm activated BEFORE the masterguard alarm went off.

I think I would trust an experience fireman over a masterguard salesman, no matter how much guilt is thrown around - one post here says don't trust the fireman's negative comments, trust the MASTERGUARD EXPERTS!!!! The irony of this is that Masterguard uses firemen testimonies in their promo films. This should be enough for me to be able to get valid corroborating testimony, one way or the other, from a local experienced fireman. A good masterguard salesman will not want you to call your local fireman first, because "they may not know enough about the product" to give you "valid" advice.

LAST THING: They are now, in our area, no longer giving free dinners, but are standing around in Wal-Mart, giving away prizes for Wii's, Barbecue Grills, and other things. Go for it, if you want that stuff, but be willing to pay the uttermost farthing in either agony of the pressure to buy, or out of your bank account for the product.
[> [> Subject: What's worse: wretched death or Masterguard sales appointments?


Author:
No name
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Date Posted: 10/19/07 12:36pm

I am very sad. My house burned down yesterday. It killed my wife, child, dog, cat, and three gerbils named Bill, Ted, and Adventure. In addition, I too was killed. I cannot begin to express the excrutiating pain one feels when ones own skin melts and bubbles from the heat of a housefire. I can assure each of you, my death was definetely a welcome relief from that horrible pain. If only I had sold my home to someone else so that I could afford to furnish it with the world's most expensive fire alert systems.

Now, as I have "passed beyond the bar" into the next life, and as I am speaking from firsthand experience of the wretched death you and your family members might experience if you do not hurry and buy 400 Masterguard devices TODAY (as you'll find out, you'll need 25 for each room, 17 for each hallway, 32 for the garage, and a few more for other places like one on your windchime, one under the stone in your garden next to the spare housekey, etc), TRUST ME all you potential Masterguard customers when I say: I would watch my flesh melt and bubble 100 times over and over again if it meant I could have the 3-4 hours back that I wasted with that ignominious Masterguard salesman at my home.
[> [> [> Subject: Extinction of the Fremont: No Masterguard?


Author:
Tribal Chief Ubehebe
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Date Posted: 10/19/07 12:51pm

I am of the Tohono O'odham Indian Nation. I am concerned with the haphazardness of everyone's mockery towards the Masterguard system.

I have bought several of these very valuable devices for my teepee. I know that my teepee is very flammable. These Masterguard devices will safeguard my family from the fire that we burn in the center of the teepee, were any of the family members to catch fire in the night.

I believe my fellow ancestors, the Fremont Indians, became exctinct in the year 1500. I am convinced that their extinction could have been prevented if Masterguard had been available then. I am convinced their entire population was made extinct by hutfires that the inhabitants could have been warned about with enough time to escape. Then we would've had many more rich tribal stories to share.

Praise Masterguard, and may the Great Spirit over us all safeguard Masterguard and its sacred, lifegiving products.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Extinction of the Fremont: No Masterguard?


Author:
Jen
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Date Posted: 12/ 5/07 2:31pm

>I am of the Tohono O'odham Indian Nation. I am
>concerned with the haphazardness of everyone's mockery
>towards the Masterguard system.
>
>I have bought several of these very valuable devices
>for my teepee. I know that my teepee is very
>flammable. These Masterguard devices will safeguard my
>family from the fire that we burn in the center of the
>teepee, were any of the family members to catch fire
>in the night.
>
>I believe my fellow ancestors, the Fremont Indians,
>became exctinct in the year 1500. I am convinced that
>their extinction could have been prevented if
>Masterguard had been available then. I am convinced
>their entire population was made extinct by hutfires
>that the inhabitants could have been warned about with
>enough time to escape. Then we would've had many more
>rich tribal stories to share.
>
>Praise Masterguard, and may the Great Spirit over us
>all safeguard Masterguard and its sacred, lifegiving
>products.

***While I know you are trying to be funny it's really not because people actually do lose their lives to fires.
Our sales representative was in our house less than a half hour. I think ANY sales persons can be pushy - after all, it is their job to sell. I think as consumers you can take responsibility and take the time to consider your purchases. If they don't like it, then find a consultant that has patience. They are out there.
[> [> Subject: The Unsinkable Mrs. Masterguard


Author:
Millvina Dean
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10/19/07 2:12pm

How could a ship deemed "practically unsinkable" be brought down on her maiden voyage?

The shipbuilder Hartland and Wolff wanted to install Masterguard products in the helm and throughout the ship. The investors who purchased a hefty insurance plan didn't want to save lives. They were already worried the ship would never be able to make money. The Masterguard products were left off, and a fire is what brought this Titanic to the bottom of the sea.

When I was only 10-1/2 months old, I was on the Titanic when it hit the glacier. What a horrendous day. I would like to share a little-known fact that "they" don't want you to know about that I witnessed with my own eyes.

I have tried to bring this to light several times but the investors have shut me up too many times. Here is one final attempt to bring to light a horrible conspiracy that cost the lives of 1500 innocent victims.

If you perform any level of research on the Titanic, you will discover that there are theories for why the Ship broke into two pieces. There are even conspiracy theories trying to establish that it wasn't even the Titanic that sank but the Olympic. As a passenger on the vessel, let me please tell you what really happened.

I can assure you that the ship that sank was indeed the Titanic. When Captain Murdoch gave the order to reverse engines the ship's reverse system failed, and the ship drifted into the iceberg. What has never been explained is why the system failed.

A fire had broken out in the bottom hull. The fire ended up causing a major explosion, creating a significant rift in the integrety of the entire hull. How do I know this? I was in the bottom level, looking into one of the system control room portholes. I looked in and saw an engineer being burned to death in a fire. He was writhing in agony, being consumed by flames. When I ran upstairs to tell my mommy, I felt the explosion. Shortly thereafter, we struck the iceberg.

If the ship's investors had let Hartland and Wolff install Masterguard products, the fire would've been detected sooner, the ship would've been brought to a full stop (standard operating procedure when dealing with an onboard fire), and the Titanic would never have impacted the glacier. 1500 victims would've been able to live full, happy lives instead of drowning and freezing to death in the depths of a cold, uncaring sea.
[> [> Subject: ATTENTION MODERATOR!!!


Author:
A concerned Netizen
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10/19/07 2:29pm

To the moderator of this forum/thread/message board (and those among us who feel similarly please voice up too!):

PLEASE INSTALL MASTERGUARD RIGHT NOW IN YOUR SERVER ROOMS!!!!!!!!!! Please, please also install their products in your data backup repository safes.

Otherwise, this board and more importantly, this thread could be potentially lost forever!
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10/24/07 2:24pm

I am in marketing class in business school. I can tell you right now that all of the reply's that are saying how great Masterguard smokes are belong to people that represent/sell Masterguard smokes. A photoelectric smoke is a photoelectric smoke. If you have the kind of money to buy a Masterguard system, buy a real alarm system from a qualified alarm installer and your system will call the fire department when fire is detected. It will also sound an audible alarm. If you can't afford that, just buy photoelectric smokes from menards/home depot.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
No name
[Edit]

Date Posted: 02/ 1/08 10:31am

Thank you so much, your comment really helped me decide what to do. Thanks for posting it. It makes total sense. They are selling a good product, but it's an expensive product and other places sell the exact same thing for much less.



>I am in marketing class in business school. I can
>tell you right now that all of the reply's that are
>saying how great Masterguard smokes are belong to
>people that represent/sell Masterguard smokes. A
>photoelectric smoke is a photoelectric smoke. If you
>have the kind of money to buy a Masterguard system,
>buy a real alarm system from a qualified alarm
>installer and your system will call the fire
>department when fire is detected. It will also sound
>an audible alarm. If you can't afford that, just buy
>photoelectric smokes from menards/home depot.
[> [> Subject: Re: MasterGuard


Author:
Laurie
[Edit]

Date Posted: 03/19/08 5:59pm

My husband & I went to one of those "free" dinners last night. The guy presenting was a total jerk. I felt like I was back in school! "Turn around and face me please!" "No talking!" "If you brought a cocktail in with you - it's your LAST one!" Gheesh! Anyway - the presentation scared us so like suckers we signed up for a sales call. The guy came the mnext day and I wasn't there (only the hubster) because I got called into work on an emergency. The salesman was PO'd!! Wouldn't even talk to my husband at all with out me there! My husband said that he would NOT reschedule because he'd alredy taken time off work for the appt. and the guy wouldn't budge. So - hubster kicked him out. As the jerk was leaving he yelled over his shoulder, "Enjoy your FREE dinner last night?" Hubby said "Yep! See ya'!"


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