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Date Posted: 10:48:26 07/02/08 Wed
Author: mkim
Subject: About Army Wives....

Just thought I'd throw some questions out there.

About Roxy..she seems to be investing alot og herself into the rebuilding of the Hump Bar, and its proprietor, Betty(the old bat). How will she be able to maintain her dedication to Betty and the bar, while Trevor is recovering from his injuries? Will she be able to walk away from the bar, when Trevor is up for transfer??

Alot of comparisons have been made between Pam's "Have At It' radio show, and the radio show on the TV series, "The Unit" also hosted by an army wife.(Kim Brown) Which do you think is more representative of army wives? Why?

Denise seems to be 'turning a page' in her life, now that she's returned to work, resumimg her 'love affair' with motorcycles and is willing to stand her ground on a number of issues with Frank. Will this be the beginning of the end for their marriage? Is Frank the kind of man who can adjust?

Is Michael a 30 year man? Or was his consideration of retirement just a reaction to Amanda's death?

About Joan, Roland encouraged her to 'lead' in her new expectant mother's exercise class, to help her feel as though she belonged.
After that, however, she told the class, on her first day, that while she was in that class she was just another expectant mother, with all the same aches and pains that go with the condition(or words to that effect) Why do you think she approached the situation that way??

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[> I'll answer inside... -- Carrotts, 12:00:47 07/02/08 Wed [1]

1) I don't think his injuries are such that it will require the amount of care that ...say.. Bud required. It seemed to me that he'll just need a bit of R&R and that Roxie will still be able to work. Now about that transfer thing - she's never experienced that before so I'm thinking that she's not thinking that far ahead. Yup, problem.

2) I have no earthly idea.

3) I'm thinking he'll adjust. I mean she's gotta stay an Army wife to stay on the show. But I think it will be rocky, and I'm going to enjoy watching the fireworks. On sorta the same note: new doc guy is kinda cute but I just don't see her with him. Dunno why. Kinda don't see her with that particular husband, either - but since she's there I'm going with it.

4) Reaction/grief. He turned around fast enough. 30 years, easy.

5) I think she plans to "lead" by example. She was doing real push-ups as opposed to those namby-pamby-girlie ones the other women were doing. She's just entering the second trimester with that bump? She's going to be HUGE! I want to see the push-ups in a couple of months. LOL! What? I gained 40 lbs with my first pregnancy and I for one would love to see her reaction to being a whale.

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[> [> I'm with you about Denise. I dont see motorcycle/doctor guy as a threat, just an aggrivation for Frank. I just dont see them as a couple. AND I've never really gotten Denise and Frank either. (I still have my harmy specter floating around in my brain) LOL!!! About Joan, INSIDE -- mkim, 14:11:31 07/02/08 Wed [1]

I liked that, I'm not sure why she didnt take Roland's advice, either, but I really like the way she handled the situation. She didnt seem to be 'lording' it over the rest of the women in class, but more challenging exercise is required to be able to maintain her upper body strength so she could get back to her normal level of fitness, post baby.

And Hey! what about that 'bump' way to big for a woman in her 4th month...tho' we are all different.

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[> [> [> Yeah, we're all different. I just thought with her level of fitness and it being a first baby she kinda burst forth a little quick. Even though I ended up gaining 40 lbs. I was still in civies (so to speak) in the beginning of month four. By month six the doctor was saying "whoa!" LOL! -- Carrotts, 14:25:02 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> Me too...I didnt need maternity clothes until my sixth month...then, as you said. Whoa!!! I still had all those nice tight stomach muscles, the first time around. Sigh! -- mkim, 14:51:19 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> Here goes: 1. Trevor isn't hurt bad so don't see a problem. Don't see an issue of transfer b/c then they would no longer be on the show..lol. 2. Don't know and don't care, I don't watch the Unit. 3. I love Denise and her finding herself. Frank pisses me off and while yes I think he'll adjust he'll go kicking and screaming. (Next weeks preview at Lifetime I want to just slap him, what a jerk). 4. It was reaction to grief. He's a 30 year man easily. 5. Don't really care, I thought that scene was a waste of time. Best Scene of the Night: Denise on her motorcycle..too cool). -- Amy, 12:37:44 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> While its true that the issue, if played out in a normal way, would eliminate them from the show, there are other ways to write them in. The Hump Bar will be a fixture, Betty isnt even related to anyone serving presently and she is in the major story line. Denise is at the post hospital, she doesnt have to be an army wife to be in the show, she'll just live off post. Sooo there are alot of ways the story lines could go. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. -- mkim, 14:17:43 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> I disagree mkim. If Roxy and Trevor were transferred it would be to a different post which would be a different state or they could even be transferred out of the country. So don't see a possiblity there. As far as Denise, while yes she is a nurse and could work there, she would have to live off post if she weren't married to Frank. Hence the whole premise of the show is shot. The show is about these 5 Army Wives (one husband) who live on post together and their relationships with each other and their spouses. -- Amy, 15:36:24 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> If one moves off they have to leave the show. There are no storylines for characters who live off post, it all centers around Fort Marshall. -- Amy, 15:36:50 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> As far as Betty, she's just a guest star who periodically shows up when the hump bar is shown. She's on right now because she's staying with Roxy. She'll be leaving soon and will possibly or probably be a guest star if/when she visits. Like I said above, this show is about these couples at Fort Marshall and what goes on around post. -- Amy, 15:41:05 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Betty has been in every episode this season. As far as Trevor and Roxy are concerned. I think Roxy is more the focus of the two. I was speculating about possible conflicts in the future. Its still a possibility. I believe the focus will always be the wives, not necessrily the husbands. -- mkim, 18:27:48 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> The hospital is on Fort Marshall, and once again, Amy, were speculating here, no one knows how this will go.(Unless you have access to the script, and even then no one knows what will actually be shown) the fun would be...if we're allowed to do it, is to discuss the possibilities. -- mkim, 18:46:34 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> I agree Mkim, if Denise splits from Frank and marries another Army doctor at the hospital, she'll still be an Army wife and be on the show, but she'll be free of Frank. I can't stand Frank, I want to smack him every time I see him. If he accuses her of having an afair I think I'll scadoo into the TV and kick him in the shins. LOL! -- Theresa, 17:03:50 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> Well, unfortunately Denise would only be able to stay on post for 6 months after a death and after a divorce she would have to leave right away. I highly doubt that Denise would turn around a day or two later and marry someone else in the military so she could stay on post..lol..I mean get real. It wouldn't go that way and Denise would look like an idiot. While I'm not happy with Frank right now, Denise and Frank won't divorce and she'll stay on post so she can remain on the show. It's going to be a battle but Frank will come around. Again, you need to remember the premise of the show. -- Amy, 17:21:36 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> You are missing the point I was trying to make, Amy. Denise is employed by the Army hospital as a civilian, so if something were to happen to her marriage in the future, she wouldnt have to be written out, since the hospital is on base. I dont think Theresa is saying D would marry someone on post to stay on post. I do know the premise of the show, Amy. I also have alot of experience as a Navy wife and Army mom. I dont think any of us know how it will go, the point of this thread was to discuss....POSSIBILITIES without belittling someone else's opinion. -- mkim, 18:38:03 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> You're missing my point mkim and I'm not belittling your point at all. All I'm trying to get across to you is that this show is about the Army Post of Fort Marshall and the Army Wives that live on the post. They would never move Denise off the Army Post and have her still work at the hospital. Denise moving off post and working at the hospital is not even an option because of the premise of the show and she won't divorce Frank. I actually do know how it will go. inside.. -- Amy, 21:28:37 07/02/08 Wed [1]

and I'm just saying that your suggestions aren't possibilities. Again refer to the premise of the show. Five Army Wives (one husband) living on a Army Post in South Carolina, not living off post and working on post. Denise is a main character and they won't have a main character move off post and be a recurring character. And that's not belittling anything.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Yes but premises can change and since you don't write or the produce the show you can't say for certain what will happen. And I have to agree your tone of posts comes across as belittling anyone who doesn't agree with you. We know you love CB and all she does but that doesn't mean we can't speculate and toss around ideas. I would love to see Denise with someone else as I don't like Frank either. So I guess all we can do is wait and see and speculate. -- Hope, 23:19:01 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Thank you, Hope. I love to read about AW, but refuse to get into the "thick" of the discussion. Speculation is so much fun, like with JAG. -- jenks, 08:09:01 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I agree that the show is set in Fort Marshall....and that the show is centered around 5 Army wives....but Denise will be an Army wife until she dies, that's something you never ever stop being. I'm still a Navy wife, and I havent been on a naval base in years. And Amy, if youre not belittling...then youre just plain hateful. Lighten up. I'm just specualting possibilities here, I can do that. -- mkim, 01:12:42 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Unless any of us are writers for the show there is no way we can unequivivally say what is going to happen. They can easily move Denise off post or have her divorce Frank. WE cant say what the writers have in mind. If the shows havent aired...anything is possible. I have a lot of experince lately with how things are filmed and being on set. NOTHING is set in stone until the director yealls cut and print. Then it is still up to the whims of the editing team. LOL -- Trish...I have seen the entire script go in a totally different direction in a click of the pen., 21:20:19 07/04/08 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Mkim is right because no matter how much the military keeps an eye on JAG especially AW now and how many of us diehards especially military experts want the show to be FULLY ACCURATE...this is still Hollywood. Im even prepared that characters we love will be butchered now and then...we all know what TV does. We can threat to boycott but deep down we are way too addicted to quit. We are veterans when it comes to torture surviving Bellisario's Jag.LOL!!! -- Paris, 23:42:40 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I'll say!!! We are definitely veterans of that war. (smirk) -- mkim, 01:01:14 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> [> Trevor's physical injuries aren't that bad --- but his emotional ones are going to be a problem, I'm afraid. PTSD anyon? --

nancyeddy, 20:03:54 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> Is the actress that plays Joan (can't think of her name) really pregnant? I agree that she looks pretty big to only be starting 2nd trimester. -- Lanet, 16:20:10 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> No, she's not pregnant in real life. -- Amy, 17:23:44 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> [> Lanet, her name is Wendy Davis. If she isnt pregnant, they sure did a good job of making that tummy look natural(for a woman who is about 5 mos pregnant,lol) -- mkim, 18:43:08 07/02/08 Wed [1]

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[> I think Trevor's injuries will be more psychological and his physical injuries will not be that serious. Roxy will be able to multitask if necessary. Once the bar gets going I think she would be able to walk away from it as she knows she will always have something to return to whether by choice or circumstance. (Inside) -- Jubellant, 22:49:37 07/02/08 Wed [1]

I would have to say that AW is more representative because I actually remember more what was said on that show. That they had Pam give the alert when the post went on lockdown and address the wives after the bombing to me was realistic in that you want to hear things from people you trust in a crisis. It's funny how I remember how Kim got the job but what she actually said on the radio is another thing altogether LOL! I think Frank is the type that will adjust but he is a visual being. Once he saw Denise at the hospital he got it. Once he sees her on that bike the lightbulb will go on again. He has said he doesn't want to be the reason that Denise leaves and I believe he truly loves her. Frank used to jump off towers he needs to get some of that go for it spirit back. Michael was just reacting to his decision making in the light of what happened at the Hump Bar. I think he is the type that would improve conditions so that military issues would not escalate to that point. I think that Joan as stated to Denise hasn't had any female friends. If she goes into this situation like a drill sergeant thay scenario wouldn't change. I think she is allowing her feminine side out in a scenario where it would be perfectly acceptable. She has nothing to prove here. This is about motherhood. Some great questions to mull over. Thanks mkim!

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[> [> I am so with you Paris, arent I terrible wishing the demise of poor old Frank??? I swear I see my hero stepping out of the shadows(after an ppropriate grieving period, of course) and carrying her away, at least until the next episode, then we'll all be able to actually see how their relationship works out. -- mkim, 01:07:11 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> I'm totally with you Mkim. Get rid of Frank! What an ass! And he doesn't match with Denise. -- Theresa, 02:01:10 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> Yeah, that's the thing - I'll go inside.. -- Carrotts, 10:29:54 07/03/08 Thu [1]

You put the nail on the head to what I'm feeling. He doesn't match with Denise (to me), or all that I know she could be (ok, I really am trying to let Mac go I swear). So yeah, I'm going to watch the storm that is going to come in their marriage and I think it'll be good drama. I love a good "woman coming into her own" story as much as the next person. But a part of me still wonders how she got with him in the first place, and that makes me want her to get while the gettin is good and find a.. well.... match. Maybe I need a little back-story so I can see how that all worked out in order to be sold on the couple and want them to make it... Other than that whole wnating them to make it just so she stays an Army wife thing. LOL!

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I enjoyed seeing the glow of CB riding the bike as Denise on AW. Its her real life love and she becomes a happy kid around it. Im banking down the road one of the husbands will be killed. Easier to do that than one of the main ladies...plus TV is full of shockers for sweeps and ratings. I hope its Frank.......LOL!!! Im with mkim and others hoping Harm comes in the form of a past love or the new Army hubby. INside... -- Paris, 23:31:58 07/02/08 Wed [1]

The camera and audience loves DJE and CB onscreen and watching them is a true pleasure and entertainment.

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[> [> ooops...I put my response above your post, instead of under it. I think its time to call it a night! -- mkim, 01:19:12 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> Maybe Frank could just slip into a coma for a couple of years...I'm not much for Frank either....He just looks too old and fuddy-duddish for Denise...Not much fun there...hopefully he stays in Iraq for an extended duty...LOLOL -- Lola., 20:01:23 07/03/08 Thu [1]

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[> [> Nah, I want Denise to have love in her life, I don't want Frank to be still attached to her, but off in Iraq for years. That will leave her with no good options. -- Theresa, 02:42:22 07/04/08 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> There is absolutely NO chemistry with Denise and Frank. Personally I think the actress playing Roxy (brain fart anyone) is preggers in RL. Denise could devorce Frank and vise-versa and still be an the show. She works at a military hospital On base so she could hang with the ladies. I go to the base here all the time with my friend. If her son gets stationed at Fort Marshall she could live with him. LOL -- Trish...ah, the possibilites, 19:45:35 07/04/08 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> [> Wow were all my thoughts random or what?? LOL -- Trish ....queen of random thinking today, 19:46:33 07/04/08 Fri [1]

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